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by hansjoachim
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:33 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

Yeah, when you load up a save it resets some values which probably caused it. I can change that:)
Also if you manage to hit the stop button as soon as it loads that should fix it.
by hansjoachim
Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

That is really cool:) insane numbers:) I like that you could just adjust the testing map, did you find any issues when doing so? I see that the mod fails in counting number of lanes, that is fixable. Also how is performance? I remember in the old testbench something like this would barely run. it r...
by hansjoachim
Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:26 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

For the fun of it i decided to do a test for a 16 lane multicross (buffers between crossings could probably be better optimized) very good even split distribution, not great all crossing (tbf, a train trying to turn right[on lhd] has to cross 60 tracks on its way through the 1100x1100 intersection)...
by hansjoachim
Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:39 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

While waiting for 2.0, I've been trying to adapt 'Parallel multicross 4lane' into a T junction. The result is a bit smaller than 'Multifork' while getting a slightly better score (127 total - set1 146, set2 108). https://factoriobin.com/post/MkKtJJXI Is there any obvious issue with this design? Any...
by hansjoachim
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

I don't think ramps will necessarily make this thread obsolete. Even with them there will still be size vs throughput optimisation to be had. Though perhaps not as many ways to really push throughput alone. Maybe a throughput / tiles used metric could be useful? If only you could floodfill landfill...
by hansjoachim
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:12 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

The difference from delta is that delta won't deadlock. The safe outputs needs to be after crossings, not mergers. The extended Symmetrical Cross will only deadlock if one of the outputs becomes blocked while a train is on the junction, pathing there, and unable to repath. This can happen with basi...
by hansjoachim
Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:13 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

Think i moved the signals 1 tile closer. Regardless if we did that for all intersections the difference would be smaller.
by hansjoachim
Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:00 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

The difference from delta is that delta won't deadlock. The safe outputs needs to be after crossings, not mergers.
by hansjoachim
Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:51 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

They should be placed as close as possible. So the safe exit block length is measured from the first rail signal that the train passes after the last chain signal it passes when going through the junction? I've done the test again, this time using that rule, and got a score of 45.4±0.5 with the sam...
by hansjoachim
Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:23 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

I tested the Delta intersection by Hans Joachim, my setup can be seen in the attached image, and got the following results: Set 1: 46.98 Set 2: 38.11 Set 3: 43.34 Score: 42.81 (42.8 ± 0.5 with uncertainty from https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Testbenchcontrols/faq) I set the TPM goal to 29, and the te...
by hansjoachim
Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

How do you deal with intersections that have different spacings between the rails? When I use the Testbench I add curved sections of rails as necessary, with signals placed so that each colored block can fit two full wagon lengths, but think this might influence the measurements. If it's far enough...
by hansjoachim
Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:56 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

Completed the new testbench. Now it can do 3 ways and its all in a scenario. No need to download save files anymore. Also it can't interfere with other mods as everything is inside the scenario. You don't need to use any other mods, but if you want you can. https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Testbenchcon...
by hansjoachim
Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:54 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

What is the purpose of your pickiness? Throughput. and how is it related to previous questions? So, what is the score? Not a big difference in comparing to the original SQUAREABOUT, right? So you posted your intersection and didn't ask for any feedback, you just wanted to share and that is good:) W...
by hansjoachim
Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:24 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

Since ramps are coming this topic is dead. There are no reason to design any intersections again, just these simple ramps and mergers. That's not true at all. Ramps are huge. Just a ramp up, over one rail, and back down is 34 tiles long. The smallest useful intersection you can make with ramps is a...
by hansjoachim
Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:17 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

I know this is shouting into the void, but I'm already subscribed so I'll keep getting the reply notifications either way... It would be considerate to use new threads in the appropriate subforums to ask general train questions, rather than using this single thread for every train related topic. Si...
by hansjoachim
Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:48 am
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: 3 and 4 way intersections
Replies: 296
Views: 153359

Re: 3 and 4 way intersections

Would someone be willing to point me at an explination of how "high-throughput merges" work, and how they're different from regular merges? It's not recommend because of the UPS cost. It's just either starting trains further back so that they merge with higher speed or combinators that ma...
by hansjoachim
Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:15 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

Ideally, now this is the last savefile on this forum. I might update it with the latest version of the mod, but no major changes are coming to the savefiles. There is a scenario in the mod, but atm it's not working quite correctly. You have to use the command /editor to get editor mode. https://mods...
by hansjoachim
Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:15 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

v6. Major change. New GUI to control the bench. New mod The reset button deletes trains and during testing the bench deletes trains between sets making the testbench much quicker. Sliders to adjust settings. A new feature to automatically run multiple tests and results are displayed in the console. ...
by hansjoachim
Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:53 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

hooray wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:11 pm
Will the train U-turn be included in the test?
U turns are not included in the test, but you can test them if you switch to manual and run set 4
by hansjoachim
Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:46 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: Testbench for 3/4way intersections
Replies: 67
Views: 33584

Re: Testbench for 3/4way intersections

v5.3.3
Fixed an issue causing the bench to reset to set 1 when using set 5. Caused by the 3/4 way checker.

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