This is not Factorio related, but mod supporting game related. As long as mods and evolving games have existed, the issue you describe has existed. Solutions ? Pick one : 1) Play modded and deal with it 2) Stick to vanilla until the game is totally finished 3) Try to convince the modders to update ...

Yeah, agreed, I did some follow up research today and see that coal is completely unrealistic for this type of stuff. I was only bringing it up because there seem to be a lot of mods that do this or, as mentioned, someone was requesting it on the mod portal page. Nope... striking coal out. I also wa...

(Also, my first oil outpost tends to be by car...) Yeah, my last playthrough I did the same. The empty barrels now lost somewhere in the logistic network. :) Would be wonderful to have a car with tank attachment or smg... XD Wanna hear something funny? Steam has me logged at 952 hours play time... ...

Lubricus wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:47 am

I expect some instability when using mods. That's a part of the deal.

Yup, me too.

What about a replacement? Instead of shift-click making everything, what if it made everything up to one stack? That would be the exact same as my suggestion, only you're now also suggesting to remove the original shift+click? Yes, I wasn't entirely clear. I wasn't talking about replacing your sugg...

What I don't get is why do the CC companies charge the receiver of the funds a fee for the CC holder issuing a charge-back after noticing fraudulent use? It's not their fault that the CC was stolen. Course, I guess that's right up there with why do CC companies charge the receiver of the funds a fee...

BlueTemplar wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:31 pm

Yeah, electric uses *way* less :
13.4kW/(0.83i/s) = 16.1 kJ/item !
And their efficiency doubled with that of boilers...

Ah, sorry, yes, 13.4. I knew there was a 3 in there....

Wow-wow, the thread goes viral! :D I like everything mr FuryoftheStars came to, even the wood-> heavy oil idea, but only from the gameplay point of view. Because the direct wood cracking produces the whole mix of chemicals, not only the heavy hydrocarbons. The heavy (plus light, I suspect), collect...

Why did a burner inserter don't produce pollution? I’d like to know this too. It makes sense that a burner inserter would produce pollution while the electric ones don’t, so don’t understand why all have to be made to not produce pollution? I'm going to take a wild guess, and say "gameplay bal...

Yes, that’s what I attempted to do originally, but I made a mistake thinking solid fuel only required 10 units of heavy oil, so I gave its item equivelant for the locomotive the same as light. Just wanted some additional feed back before I slashed the value in half. I do, though, for this mod, add a...

Well, the locomotive can’t use the fluids directly. What has to happen is as fluid is added (or removed), it creates an item out of the fluid and puts that into the locomotive, assigning fuel values and the like to the item.

To go with Choumiko’s suggestions, the mod author can probably add custom pump entities for use with the ships.

It sucks, yeah, but it would allow it to continue to work.

mudcrabempire wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:01 am

I don't think it's a good idea to argue physics here.

I wasn’t. I was arguing the point that pumps being in the game are arbitrary.

For some reason I completely forgot that solid fuel is made by 20 units of heavy oil while only 10 units of light. For balance reasons, I was thinking of slashing heavy oil's fuel value in half (right now it's balanced towards 10 units of heavy oil to solid fuel).

Thoughts, comments?

Mod uploaded.
Forum thread: viewtopic.php?f=190&t=73212&p=441901#p441901
Mod page: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Wood2OilProcessing

Name: Wood to Oil Processing Summary: Adds a couple advanced recipes that allows converting of wood into oil products. Uses all vanilla items & fluids; no custom items or fluids added that need new chains to deal with. Does have some basis in reality. Can optionally be used along side the existi...

So I've been testing this for a bit and I think I've got some "final" balance numbers. Not sure what others think. Basic Wood to Oil Processing Ingredients: 5x Wood Results: 1 2x Heavy Oil Crafting time: 5 4s Advanced Wood to Oil Processing Ingredients: 5x Wood 5x Sulfuric Acid Results: 2 ...

Hey, heavy oil rather than crude oil is interesting from a gameplay perspective ! You will be able to make solid fuel and use it in flame turrets, though that's pretty much it... This could give you a good enough boost to be able to claim the oil that you're missing ! You can also use it to make lu...

Well, yeah, any requirements like sulfuric acid, blue science and such will defeat the value of such mod. Or at least make the tech obsolete by the game time point at which it could be researched. However, thinking in that direction, I would suggest to do a 2 tiers of such tech - the basic direct w...

You simply can't fit pumps everywhere. Because not only you require the space for the pump itself, but also to provide electricity to it. {...} And mind you, unless you have a long, unbending series of pumps, you will lose output based on the distance. You don't need to fit pumps everywhere, it wou...