Currently, by far the best strategy to eliminate enemy bases is to turret creep. Problem is, that it seems to the only viable way to of eliminating bases until tanks, basically. Which is far too long.

Devs have made it pretty clear that they don't like the turret creep, and are working against it ...

Wow, I've always thought lamp timing depended on position in the map.

While fascinated by the trick I am a bit disappointed.

I now do definitely agree that bots need a nerf.

Could something be done similar to how the factories work?

Where you start with tier 1 bots that can lift single ingredient items. Tier 2 bots that can lift two ingredient items and anything more complex than that would have to go on a belt?

Or ...

I think bots should be superior to belts simply because of the difference in resource cost.

In a free, long, straight line however, I think max lvl belts should win over bots. Be a fast lane of sorts.

I think that nerfing the bots is the wrong way around it.

Could there not be an addition to the ...

Loewchen wrote:

Noobc0re wrote:If it's on, then that explains it. But I remember double-checking that it was off before starting.

There was a bug that caused settings to default back when restarting a map, but it was fixed months ago. I'll file this as NaB until someone can show a way to reproduce this.

Fair enough.

Loewchen wrote:Enemy expansions are not deactivated in the save you provided.
Edit: With what version of the game was the map created originally?

Whatever version it was almost a week ago. Friday.

If it's on, then that explains it. But I remember double-checking that it was off before starting.

Oh no, my railroad nightmare! No one was to know about it!

Is this the correct one, the zip file?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7KGQ ... XJkdGJfQkU

I forgot to note that I did press restart a few times. I don't think that should be it, but thought I'd mention it.

Bilka wrote:Please post a save of your map.

String or file?

Hi.

I disabled enemy expansion, but they still made new bases.

200 mags for a big worm means your ap-ammo damage isn't over the 10 points of flat resistance of the worm, do some upgrades.

Problem is that this is early-game cleanup. It shouldn't need upgraded ap-ammo. ap-ammo alone should just clean house at this stage.

This change made the whole endeavor ...

200 mags for a big worm means your ap-ammo damage isn't over the 10 points of flat resistance of the worm, do some upgrades.

Problem is that this is early-game cleanup. It shouldn't need upgraded ap-ammo. ap-ammo alone should just clean house at this stage.

This change made the whole endeavor ...

Have they buffed the living fuck out of the big worms in 0.15?

My turrets used up literally over 200 mags of ap-ammo to kill one of those fuckers.

If they're going to be that insane they shouldn't spawn immediately, they should be late game.

Wait. Rocket will still be the victory condition right?

The new ore looks amazing! I can't wait for 0.15!

Interesting, so there was some code preventing aliens from settling near your power poles, and now it has been removed? So aliens can randomly spread to areas near your power poles and inadvertently attack them now?

Putting laser turrets near every single power pole is obviously not realistic, and ...

I'd like to see a mod where power poles get back their ability to prevent alien settlements.

I know of the existing mod. But military 3 is too late and the cost is too high for me.

i don't see the need of a victory pole. glad it was removed.

wall off areas and protect them with lasers/robo-ports & construction bots.
more, and larger water areas help. they can't make spawners, if they can't get to an area.

Well, I have a need.

Walling doesn't help as they just break it ...

The removal of power poles blocking alien spread really ruined the game for me.

What I'd love to see is an actual victory pole, that you can place that will prevent alien settling in a radius around it.

inb4 peaceful mode, it's not the same.