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by Cerulean
Tue May 30, 2017 2:59 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: infinite research cost and effect (math!)
Replies: 17
Views: 18108

Re: infinite research cost and effect (math!)

I copied this work into https://wiki.factorio.com/Science_pack#Types so that people will be able to find it later. Thanks! (and you might like my own math at https://repl.it/IWyE/1, but I didn't break down the oil fractions. It took me a moment to convince myself that breakdown was reasonable -- ie,...
by Cerulean
Tue May 30, 2017 2:35 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: total cost of a rocket (with research) in 0.15.X?
Replies: 2
Views: 2550

Re: total cost of a rocket (with research) in 0.15.X?

Here's a python scratchpad: https://repl.it/IWyE/1 Counting only the costs of researching the actual rocket (rocketry, rocket speed 1-5, and rocket silo), I get that rocket research costs 388K resources, and the rocket + satellite costs 229K resources. If you include other research (in particular th...
by Cerulean
Sat May 27, 2017 9:47 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: intermediate products
Replies: 4
Views: 3688

intermediate products

Productivity modules can only be used on "intermediate products". What's up with that? Is there something about my laser turret assembler that would cause it to break if I added a productivity module? I guess where this gets me most is: I'm making purple science, and it's expensive. Most o...
by Cerulean
Sat May 27, 2017 3:54 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: How accurate is the energy info?
Replies: 6
Views: 3142

Re: How accurate is the energy info?

I said to myself: "well, one thing that's definitely fake is the sulfur thing. Convert petroleum gas, a hydrocarbon, into sulfur by adding water?" But I checked Wikipedia and apparently that's actually how you get sulfur. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrodesulfurization So, that's one th...
by Cerulean
Tue May 23, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Not a bug
Topic: green science pack "Total Raw" numbers seem wrong
Replies: 1
Views: 1545

green science pack "Total Raw" numbers seem wrong

The "total raw" cost for the green science pack is listed as 8.75 seconds, 1.5 copper, 5.5 iron. But a green science pack is made from a transport belt (cost: 1 second, 3 iron) and an inserter (cost: 2.25 seconds, 1.5 copper, 4 iron), plus 6 seconds. (These numbers are all mirrored on the ...
by Cerulean
Sun May 21, 2017 1:03 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: [0.15] Beacon redundant in Marathon mode?
Replies: 5
Views: 3044

Re: [0.15] Beacon redundant in Marathon mode?

You probably still want to use speed modules on your pumpjacks -- once they're down to 20%, speed bonuses are equivalent to productivity bonuses, and speed modules add more than productivity does. Other than that, if you don't care about production capacity or about electricity, then you're right th...
by Cerulean
Fri May 19, 2017 3:38 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: so who's done a Death World?
Replies: 19
Views: 15458

Re: so who's done a Death World?

I launched the rocket in my Death World game just shy of 32 hours in. That's a lot of hours! Here's the guide I wish I'd had: * The evolution rate looked scary at first, but it slowed down considerably after a while, and even 32 hours in my evolution level was only like 0.84. This is with a reasonab...
by Cerulean
Thu May 18, 2017 7:56 am
Forum: Not a bug
Topic: [0.15.9] Death World evolution settings reset on loading?
Replies: 1
Views: 1199

[0.15.9] Death World evolution settings reset on loading?

I started a Death World game (version 0.15.9); after a few hours I checked the evolution level and it was very high. On my first save, time alone had caused 0.17 worth of evolution after 3 hours 13 minutes! I kept playing for a bit longer. At some point I saved my game, logged off for the night, and...
by Cerulean
Mon May 15, 2017 1:24 pm
Forum: Wiki Talk
Topic: some "Total Raw" numbers are wrong on the wiki
Replies: 3
Views: 4930

some "Total Raw" numbers are wrong on the wiki

Some of the "Total Raw" numbers are wrong on the wiki. My favorite is https://wiki.factorio.com/Processing_unit, where the recipe is: Time, 10 + Advanced circuit, 2 + Electronic circuit, 20 + Sulfuric acid, 5 and the "Total Raw" numbers are the same -- they don't break down advan...
by Cerulean
Sun May 14, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: Higher Contrast Pollution Cloud
Replies: 3
Views: 1830

Higher Contrast Pollution Cloud

When I check the pollution tab on my map, I usually have a very simple question: how far is my pollution cloud reaching? Doe it touch any enemy bases? I've been having trouble with this, because the pollution cloud is pretty low-contrast at its edges, so I really have to squint to even find the edge...
by Cerulean
Sun May 14, 2017 5:36 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Are efficiency modules even worth it?
Replies: 28
Views: 20108

Re: Are efficiency modules even worth it?

One efficiency module = 32.5 copper + 15 iron + 2 plastic One solar panel = 27.5 copper + 40 iron If we count the 2 plastic as 5 things, then one efficiency module costs 73% as much as one solar panel. Solar panels generate 60kW during full daylight, so actual return is 0.7*60=42kW, so 73% of a sola...
by Cerulean
Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:20 pm
Forum: Not a bug
Topic: rocket silo doesn't use enough power
Replies: 2
Views: 1409

Re: rocket silo doesn't use enough power

(This is particularly relevant because I like to install productivity modules on my rocket silo. If my productivity modules multiply a 257kW load as opposed to a 4MW load, I feel like it's really letting me get away with something...)
by Cerulean
Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:18 pm
Forum: Not a bug
Topic: rocket silo doesn't use enough power
Replies: 2
Views: 1409

rocket silo doesn't use enough power

My rocket silo is rated at 4MW of power, but I noticed it only actually uses 257kW of power. What's up with that?
I have attached an image of my rocket silo using 257kW of power. This is with no modules.

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