ahh good point i forgot to mention that i have used a couple of speed modules i guess i should just put them in everything and see what the pollution levels would be like xD all though that would mess up timing with a lot of my assembly lines

thats what i did in this playthrough i went straight for solid fuel, all my power stations run off of it. i actually have too much oil on this xD iv had to stop the train between oil processing and the outpost as i have filled 20 tanks of crude oil as well as the other tanks leading from the refiner...

soo orginised my factories are very messy xD but as long as it is efficient im not bothered although my walls have to be neat but other than that... madness

Damn, my pc couldnt handle that amount of entities xD you should try this with out using solar panels

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/Hivesicle/factorio_zpsb2e511b0.png on this play through i decided not to use any solar or accumulators at all. i ended up using roughly 80 steam engines, mainly to power the lasers xD but yeah pretty fun play through a nice challenge with the constant attack...