Quality was the first system implemented in the expansion. It was not tacked on to anything. There are no intentions to change how things work because it *is working how it was intended to work*.



My mistake then, I'll defer to the developers for how they want to balance their game. My ...

Terrible disappointment overall that Quality was not addressed bar the bullet points in the changelog. Happy to play on 2.1 without Quality, in my opinion in it's unfinished state it just diminishes the overall refined experience of Factorio. A real shame they decided to tack on Quality for the ...

It's not clear why you still want or need legendary science with 2.1. With the new landing pad unloading bay the throughput limit of the cargo landing pad is lifted, so you're able to push by orders of magnitude more normal science than with 2.0. As far as I understand this throughput bottleneck ...

It's less that I feel like it shouldn't be rewarding. It's more that I feel like it's intended for the thing to be challenging. As for whether or not it is, it's a feature which drains more resources than benefits it provides except when optimized by other technologies. So it's part of "Coffee ...

I think some of the things you're saying are correct but the balance is intentional because I haven't run into two paradoxes, actually I'm thinking of collecting them as a hobby. I also think that the paradoxes are bound to make people not like the system on an instinctive level because logical ...

Circling back since the new FFF is out and while it was great I still do not see Quality being addressed in some way from a quick read through.

The arguments that Casinos are overpowered are valid. The arguments that if anything should go it was the LDS & PU shuffles are valid. The argument that ...

I can accept that it's not what the devs intended and potentially harms the balance of the game, but alternate ways to interact with the mechanic should be swapped out rather than stomped out. I'd rather leave the how up to the devs, I'm normally fairly solutions oriented in approaching problems but ...

I'm indifferent to the space casino being removed really, as far as I know you can still build them with Recyclers and get the same result but with a far higher loss of input materials that is more in line with the balance the devs originally had in mind.

My main issue is that Quality feels boring ...