The solution is to xor the data with a new key every time the data fails to send. Good luck with trying to find out what isp has the shitty deep packet filtering.

I still firmly believe turrets need no nerf at all. Turret creeping is tedious enough as it is. Problem is not that turret creeping is too powerful. The problem is that other means of attacking are not powerful enough. Believe me, if you can just run and gun the bugs and their nests, people will do ...

Frightning wrote:If the changes were unnoticeable, then they would necessarily also be unimpactful, meaning that the original problems would remain unresolved.

Together they would accomplish the intended goal but on their own they are unnoticeable.

At high evolution levels, swarms of pterodactyl like creatures will attack your base, making an exhilarating end game.
Although deadly, one may defeat them with SAM sites which take missiles as ammo, cover a large radius and can shoot many flying creatures at once.

To get an idea:
Swarming aricraft ...

playerbase have widely varying opinions on what we'd like to see

So make the changes unnoticeable


possible that both problems could be addressed at once if they made robotic military units like walkers, tanks, and/or permanent hovering bots
I've thought of that idea too, like in starwars ...

- Setup time won't affect much. It just means turret creeping will be slower.

Thats the point

- Bases taking less damage will again just make turret creeping slower.

That's the point

- Having building events check for biters, or biters constantly check for buildings, is more CPU time
it's not ...

In response to the latest blog https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-169 Twinsen mentioned that "So far I believe that we did not find a simple, fun and fair solution"

I would like to offer my solution,

Make a number of small changes that on their own, wont make a noticeable impact, but together ...

ratchetfreak wrote:quite a few suggestions here

number 3 has a work around with the roboport and construction robots which don't need to mine structures

Yea deconstruction plan is great and all, but the problem is in the early game you don't have robots yet, which is kinda when you want to build lots of walls.

1) Give turrets an activation animation of a few seconds once built, so you can't easily kill alien bases with turret creep.

2) Aliens will evolve next to the player based on how many buildings are in the area, so you cant just place 1 small object to stop aliens spawning.

3) Walls are easier ...