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by coffee-factorio
Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:14 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: I went back to 1.1
Replies: 26
Views: 2926

Re: I went back to 1.1



I dislike puzzles. I like to tinker and make my own designs efficient or compact, but not puzzles.
First Factorio was a giant blank page, build everything you want, everywhere, as you want. Unlike anything I ever played before (no factory sims, just every RTS). Also 2.0 broke one of the rules of ...
by coffee-factorio
Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:56 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: I went back to 1.1
Replies: 26
Views: 2926

Re: I went back to 1.1


I've loaded up Space Age several times now and it just hasn't clicked. I wish I could describe it better. Each time I've started up a Space Age game I quit within the first 30min. I can't blame it on mods entirely as I occasionally load up a stock game and still have fun with it. After my first ...
by coffee-factorio
Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:03 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?



So it's as much time as I want to put in it.


It's a setup limited in use because it works only for things that have a single ingredient, as it would jam otherwise.

It's made full of legendary module, so it's a late game setup, yet it's using assembly plants to make gears. It's a non-sense ...
by coffee-factorio
Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:45 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

It gave me some fight on the numbers side.

So for the Monte Carlo simulation: I've got a machine that acts like a PDA or and FSA, basically it's simple and it don't jam. So it's as much time as I want to put in it. Parts are defined as time*parts a machine could produce. But this appears to be a ...
by coffee-factorio
Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:06 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

This is a proof of concept run based on my "failed build" that has been running since last night, with some occasional pauses.

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by coffee-factorio
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:57 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

It's a good article. In the final graph of the article, there's a graph of each edit: quality module effect level. I originally just used recycler level because that's how I think of it "grade of recycler power".

For four quality modules (the furthest point on the graph from 0), the percentage ...
by coffee-factorio
Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:57 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?


*snip*
This was long and I'm confused as to what prompted it....

But I wanted to remark on the cause of the jams, since it's not clear to me if you are aware. When you recycle a chem plant, for each ingredient you get a 75% chance of one item back and a 25% chance of two items back. (IIRC ...
by coffee-factorio
Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:23 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

Now, some statements have been made.

The relevant ones are that a beginner is insulated from error due to the time scales involved. And a more curious mind will observe some interesting phenomenon which makes the problem seem a bit deeper. And at 50 hours in, well...

This is where a discussion of ...
by coffee-factorio
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:04 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

Had a conversation with someone out by the flag pole. I'll respond to their criticisms at my leisure when they are valid.
This went a bit long, so the tldr summary is that quality produces deep results that are both technically intense and philosophically deep. At the end of the day it does ...
by coffee-factorio
Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:40 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

That's fair. I did send you one. Someone else probably might talk about Monte Carlo and it's strengths and weaknesses when you're given a problem you're using it to look at quality. It isn't being inconsistent to admit there are tradeoffs that make one better or another worse. I plan on continuing ...
by coffee-factorio
Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:33 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?



I think my choice of questioning Fulgora's benefits wasn't taken well. Hot's hot, so maybe my defense was not good.
I might be a donkey but I can see eye to eye with you on that.


That's not about taking it well or not , i thought it made no sense to claim that the "mining bonus" is what ...
by coffee-factorio
Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:03 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

Stating a preference is not attacking any one person. I think my choice of questioning Fulgora's benefits wasn't taken well. Hot's hot, so maybe my defense was not good.

You seem like you want people to share in your excitement. That's fine. It's better than being angry but you have to have an ...
by coffee-factorio
Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:27 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?



I agree that none of your arguments seem to make any sense, and that your text's meaning are so opaque that it look like they don't have any.


Well, not everyone had the privilege to pick up good English / critical writing skills. Very intelligent people can appear to contradict themselves or ...
by coffee-factorio
Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:03 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?



So if you don't just go after the product, recycler keeps 3/5 of your possible output?


Glad you confirmed my code-based simulation. I'm just doing the ratios, not a full-blown Monte Carlo since I'm ignoring the variance.

I'd say it's suboptimal to view the normal-to-legendary path as a ...
by coffee-factorio
Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:14 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

Right, so rerolling and why I did this. Basically, I looked at the ratio of EM plants to asteroid rerolls and said "No way is that true." And em plant flips a coin and has five modules every roll. It'll roll over anything short of a chem plant in terms of efficiency.

I put in 1.125 ips asteroids, 1 ...
by coffee-factorio
Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:01 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

Okay, so here's the thing. You know how I said a blue chip gets subdivided by four even if you factor in productivity?

Well, limits of my understanding I didn't get how bad it'd be for upcycling in general. Look at where your program is saying 2.21% v. 1.30%? I put together an expedient map editor ...
by coffee-factorio
Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:14 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?



One thing people might not have noticed: asteroid rerolling is 3 rolls as I read it, one for a 2/5, one for 1/5 and one for a 1/5. A reroller station only takes 2 modules, so that's 12.5% or so or 1/8 at best. So you have a 2 in 40, one in 40 and one in 40 chance being thrown collectively off ...
by coffee-factorio
Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:00 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?

That's fair.
by coffee-factorio
Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:39 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?



I go too fast a lot when I'm angry. The reason why I am angry is that I've played 750 hours on a save and I'm pretty sure you're baiting me to see how far I'll go at this point,


I suggest you slow down then. Your claims about your playtime doesn't change anything to me about how the mining ...
by coffee-factorio
Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:30 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: How to upcycle?
Replies: 140
Views: 14721

Re: How to upcycle?





I was asking to Tertius because i don't understand most of you what you say, it seem generated by robots to me.




I'm a terrible typist. :lol:

I go too fast a lot when I'm angry. The reason why I am angry is that I've played 750 hours on a save and I'm pretty sure you're baiting me to ...

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