People are still discussing "fun vs. realism" topic while i have a strong feeling it was a deliberate misdirection to distract people from the real change that was made to the game. agreed. "fun" vs "realism" is just a distraction. Even if fluids 2.0 is more realistic ...

I welcome this change because pipes just don't work currently. I've lost count of how many times I've seen a pipe with 100 liquid sitting next to a pipe with 0 liquid, and it just won't flow. While the "realism" would be nice, I want my liquid systems to actually work. I'm sure the devs c...

That's the first FFF about the new Factorio that I have just read and thought... hold on... so... you just did that? And this wasn't a build up to a series of trial and errors that eventually came out with something that worked similarly to the old system and was still workable? It's disappointing ...