it's been almost a year, maybe FFF this or next week?

i think it's cool if you CANNOT make lamps in the EMP. Assembling machine ftw.

The randomness factor of quality was one of the system's core properties as pointed out by Kovarex, the lead dev. I don't see how this will be removed from the system. I do think tho that big improvements can be made in terms of mainly balance.

TBH the Marathon and DW Marathon presets make no sense in 2.0 or SA because they just axed the expensive recipes without any retuning.

Deathworld Marathon is just a x4 research cost multiplier with easier enemies than Deathworld. Unlike in 1.1 where it was true hell with the expensive recipes on top.

@OP

Lmao, if that upsets you wait till you find out about the removal of the entire 1.1 fluid mechanics.

teh lamp can stay out of magnetic palnt

It's just fun and completely fine if there are randomly things that behave different in the game. Maybe this is one of them, maybe not. The lamp produces fine in assembling machines so make em there!

Yeah agree, they might as well have removed all those extra presets in Space Age.

And yeah, I really miss the expensive recipes, made my own mod for that but it's not the same.

I'm a proponent of per-game shortcut behavior because it just blows imo that you join one random multiplayer game and have all the buttons unlocked on all your saves, crap that you have no idea what it is because you never researched it yourself. When I was a new player I had to figure out how to ...

Plug it into a external monitor and keyboard/mouse.

Or atleast completely redo the controls.

ofc this thread is about the explicit type of filtering, not the automatic one.

Jap2.0 wrote: Sat Aug 09, 2025 6:13 pm Do you feel the same way about the stack size upgrades?

Hmm I don't really like that normal inserters also get the ability to bulk-insert. i'm fine with the bulk inserter getting upgrades.

One more small con I have against inserter filtering as a tech is that it changes the functionality of affected entities to such an extent that updated recipes would be expected. How can the same simple Burner inserter that is crafted from a iron gear wheel and a iron plate suddenly be capable of ...

Since it has a pretty niche use case then anyway (that's what most people imply here) then the best option seems to be simply how it already was, a special inserter that can do that where you need it. Problem was the unique coloring but as I pointed out before, maybe a good solution can be found for ...

Only reasonable restriction is having filters be gated by a specific entity which you need to craft, which means having a special technology that unlocks inserters with filters. For base game we decided that there is not enough colors to make inserters look unique and so we decided having less ...

Agree 100%, especially with the complexity for new players thing. The worst part is, by having this tech always from the start on even the simplest inserters it encourages a playstyle that is sub-optimal, relying on the filters instead of setting up proper logistics. Like this is 'the' way to play ...

Space Age is getting good reviews but not as good as Factorio did before 2.0.

Few things I wanna say, as I hope devs might be reading this thread. First, Reddit is trash. You never know how many bots are there trying to manipulate the direction of your game for whatever reason (remember your game ...

This is a MAJOR oversight :P But seriously I never liked the change that allows all inserters to filter anyway, it's rather lame imo. Having inserters filtering items is a niche use case which was perfectly fitted for that single special inserter which you had to use. If you need this constantly ...

To get back to OP's question: Did circular belts always halt on full load?

I don't think so. At least I remember countless situations where the items would keep circulating even is the belt was completely filled. I also remember this behavior changing at a certain point. This was 4 years ago or ...