flame_Sla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:23 am 5x10000 ticks
the results are slightly different
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Interesting. I'll have to run the same

I was able to add another beacon to the iron furnaces, which makes the speed 9.4 instead of 8.4 and had 3 different combinations of how that beacon affected other entities. 4.2.10 : only affects furnace but also removes 1 beacon from gears https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/20e1c238e7b7fc901d4e4292...

Belter wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:35 pm

guitars11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:07 pm updated 4.5 and is now 4.5.1. I found 2 furnaces that were not working as intended, somehow the ore got messed up.

I don't get higher UPS for 4.5.1 than 4.5. Actually <1% slower - withing the margin of error: 610 vs 606 UPS.

Ok good, that's about expected.

Belter wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:09 pm And the times visalized from flame_Sla's CSV file - sorry its not milisecs but microsecs:
UPS-flameSla-Belter-measurements-times-20230418.png

This is a pretty cool breakdown of the different attributes. How did you do this?

updated 4.5 and is now 4.5.1. I found 2 furnaces that were not working as intended, somehow the ore got messed up. This one should be good now and hopefully still around the same performance since it was only 2. https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/90dddd4c66dc36fc503c0f277ca7955ae1734a0a9b9789270918...

On your computer it's faster flame? interesting...

Edit : there are a couple that aren't working fully... I'll have to fix that when I get back

Adjusted Steve's design to use more stubs.

https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/79a ... 7d6c7f4211

hm, seems to have a little worse performance than 4.2.2.
4.2.2 has an extra beacon on some of assemblers/furnaces so maybe that is the deciding factor.

Nice work steve! Good find on how to make it more tileable

hmm. I'm getting 955 ups for the 8t-7side which is a little slower than just the regular 4.2.2 which I got 1029. I'm not sure what would be making yours be a little faster though on your computer.

For my 4.2.2 8t benchmark, I removed the mods and got rid of flames' test blueprint. I found having mods active actually eat up a little performance and can throw results off. Can you rerun Flame?

[...]we should load 8 gears into the assembly machine![...] It became the ~same UPS, but much better material for perfect timing. Also now there is a chance to get rid of the final buffering pair. Updated v4.2.2 with the timing and the 8 stacksize as suggested above. Had to shift the cycle for half...

flame_Sla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:47 pm

guitars11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:42 pm Oh yeah I forgot about the subreddit discord, but what do you think about a server for just this?

why a separate server?

I just thought it would be easier to organize, but it doesn't matter to me.

Exactly what my tests show as well. So I try to find a way to load the machine when only 1 or 2 RS in it... the produced items must be less than 12, then the inserter will immediately unload them all 12 gears -> 16.8 reds 11 gears -> 15.4 reds 10 gears -> 14 reds 9 gears -> 12.6 reds 8 gears -> 11....

Also what are your guys' thoughts on a discord server? I feel like it would be easier to share information server "Technical Factorio" https://discord.com/invite/dxDze5e PS I hope I'm not breaking the rules Oh yeah I forgot about the subreddit discord, but what do you think about a server...

I need help figuring out if there is any difference between these builds: v4.2.2 Performed 1000 updates in 1778.962 ms Performed 1000 updates in 1780.580 ms Performed 1000 updates in 1776.502 ms Performed 1000 updates in 1778.169 ms Performed 1000 updates in 1774.626 ms Map benchmarked at 563 UPS v...

Also what are your guys' thoughts on a discord server? I feel like it would be easier to share information

I need help figuring out if there is any difference between these builds: v4.2.2 : https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/53590a606b6f0812dc4b9a54b7e5541239bb8ad3bfafdfae39e852055c1b5f06 v4.2.6 : https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/29de6d2f1c6e9ad794a6b505ac524542f475662272dafc0429bc061c959962eb v4.2.7...

Taking inspiration about what you said for perfect clocks, I reduced the amount of stubs needed for the first part of the belt. This seems to have increased performance by about another 2-3%. These first couple of inserters don't need the stubs since there just isn't enough science on the belt yet. ...

Here is another about 5% improvement from v4.1.1. [...] v4.2 is about 11% improvement Added to the list (to the top:)) I'm thinking about to measure this setup with some changes. Currently these are in theory only, maybe on the weekend: - a better/perfect timing but this PM mod is tricky. In perfec...

About a 2% improvement from v4.2. The main difference is moved around the beacons a little bit where the iron is which allowed 1 more beacon to affect the gears and copper. This increased downtime which seems to have helped just slightly. Even though the overflow belts aren't connected anymore, whic...