It may not be "the" complaint, but it definitely is "a" complaint from at least one person in this thread. Honestly from watching early game runs the main change seems to be that people craft the lab before the red beakers instead of the other way around.

It seems that the early game triggers aren't really slowing down the speedrunners. The current 1.1 steelaxe WR is 8m23s, in 2.0 it's 6m51s. Of course most of that is because steelaxe is now triggered by producing steel instead of red beakers. Even so, in the 1.1 WR speedrun automation research is ...

I agree with most here. There's very little reason to restart, especially once you have bots. I think the only reasons would be if you have let evolution outrun your military tech level, or you have run out of a resource and don't have the means to secure more of it, or you really want different map ...

That's also a good point. Though I would have thought that in general trash slots would be higher priority than active providers. That will need some testing.

I wonder if a minimum distance between landing pads could be a solution? There's still a logistics challenge as you can't just spam them wherever you want, but there's no absolute cap on item throughput.

What I definitely don't want in Factorio is a mechanic that's close to teleportation. That ...

I use them on Fulgora. It takes steel, light space material and other important stuff from the belts and pushes them to the yellow storage chests. I have multiple yellow chests set on different filters so that I can stockpile for example steel.


I wasn't saying the function was redundant, just ...

My general recommendation is to only build on one side of the bus. It DOES make the bus get longer, but so what?

You answered the "so what" in your next paragraph.

... generates more bus storage, and more pollution generating that bus storage.

That, plus longer thinner bases are harder to ...

I didn't even think of the higher capacity. You get regular storage slots + trash slots.

However as Ranec1 points out, there is a corner case where the trash slots fill with something that can't be stored, while something that could be stored is sitting in the regular slots.

For midgame, I doubt it. The resources you need to sink into space platforms to get an amount of resources that move the needle are way more than just tapping a new ore patch on nauvis. The evolution saved from pollution is probably lost to time and pollution based evolution making that many ...

For those who pulls walls off the end of their grey science line, making quality walls would be downright frustrating. Reiterating the "not all space is equal" point, the space walls take up is usually very low value.

I'm not sure where you think the frustration would come from, but I agree ...

If anything when I build a bus, I tend to prioritise mining resources that are where the bus is heading, so there's a chance that it's mined out by the time my bus gets there.

Overall I would not worry about where your resources come from. Even if your resources come from the wrong direction, a ...

Am I missing something, or is a purple chest now just a requester chests with "trash unrequested" and no requests? Sure there's a visual difference which could contribute to understandability, but everything else in factorio seems to trend toward single items with multiple modes, and purple chests ...

Geigeabc wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:47 pm I can recommend nuclear power. Its blue science now ...

When was it not blue science?

This is a very interesting discussion. Categorizing this way is interesting, but to me it's a bit academic. I don't think you can then go straight to a gameplay application based purely on these categorizations.

First thing I would say is that large power poles are technically in the A category IMO ...

Well I think I can answer half of that question. Filled to 80% would mean that the smaller of the fuel/oxidiser buffers in the thruster is 80% full. As for what 100% or 200% consumption is, I don't know if that's 120/s or 240/s, though I suspect the latter.

That seems incredibly contrived. If that happens, you could just be crafting green circuits instead which you need for your lab.

Well, it happens to me all the time, actually. Consider that it literally takes a few seconds to craft the green circuits but 15 seconds to craft the beakers ...

I've found the shotgun very useful for bursting down spawners and worms early game. Also here's a video of me goofing around with the supposedly nerfed into uselessness PLD and the apparently still useless combat shotgun at evolution 0.84: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJZmOM8ndR8. (this is not ...

For example, if I start a new map and build power a bit away from my base, I might craft power poles and be left with three copper plates. Then, I can’t craft a few red pots while running back to the ore patches? That is so annoying...


That seems incredibly contrived. If that happens, you ...

I wouldn't worry too much about your rant, there have been a few threads like this. I think yours just happened to be the one that put me over the edge into commenting about people expecting their 1.1 strats to work without any changes.

I would argue that the tank is close to fairly balanced now ...

Yeah combat robots are what I was hinting at in my post.

Everyone wants to copy their 1.1 strats verbatim to 2.0 then when they no longer work, they say it's unbalanced.