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I don't think a new setting is the right solution. I want something that I can control on a train by train / situation by situation basis.

Personally most of the time I'm using my personal construction train, and if I control click a destination, I want the train to stop and wait there. (Plus on my current base, travelling to the borders from the central base takes 2-3 minutes even with rocket fuel, so I often want to send the train there, then go get a drink or some food or take a toilet break whilst travelling). For that use case I'm typically travelling towards the border, which means I don't care about the train blocking the rail line, because there are no other trains using that section of track yet. (If I'm travelling to somewhere closer, I normally have a PAX station already setup, and hence I don't need to use a temporary station).

But occasionally I borrow a nearby train, simply because it is closer and more convenient than waiting for my construction train. In that case I typically want it to resume normal operations once I disembark.

(There is also a third possibility. Where I place a locomotive from my inventory, then send it to a temp stop. But in that case manual vs automatic doesn't matter, since the locomotive has no other stations, so I won't consider it further).

So personally I want to be able to use both options. Having to open the game settings to change that would be annoying. Having a train which starts in manual finish in manual would work, because I can set that just before placing the temp stop. The other option worth considering is adding a separate key combination to order a train to go to the temp stop and switch to manual/wait indefinitely. (Maybe control-shift click?)

Zavian wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:34 am I want something that I can control on a train by train / situation by situation basis.

Nobody hinders you to change the default by hand after ordering. Already working. This is only about configuration of the default action.

I would like for all newly created stops to default to "wait forever" until you set a condition. IMO the existing behavior both for temp stops and permanent stops is annoying. It's also annoying that there's no "wait forever" option. Right now I usually use "Passenger present AND Passenger not present" for my passenger trains because I don't want to drive them manually but I also don't want them just continuing on unless I say so.

It would be a breaking change, but honestly I feel like the default behavior where no condition is set causes the train to continue along seems like the wrong behavior anyway - the train should simply stay at the station until a condition is set or the train is tasked to another station.

gaucho_tche wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:14 pm I couldn't find a single person who wouldn't prefer that the temporary train station would put train in manual mode once reached!

Developers please change this!

thanks

I'm one. I don't want it always put in manual mode. What if I hijacked an ore train to get me somewhere cause it was the only one available? I want it to automatically resume.

Zavian wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:06 am Maybe the best solution is a compromise. If the train is in manual mode when you control-click to create a temp station, then the train temporarily switches to auto mode, drives to the temp station, then switches back to manual mode. If the train was in auto mode, then it stays in auto mode when it arrives.

Yes. This would be ideal, I think.

Ansible32 wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:41 pm IMO the existing behavior both for temp stops and permanent stops is annoying.

Not for me. I'm against your proposed change as well.
For a normal stop, I have no issues if it bypasses the stop while I'm still adding it to the schedule. If it was that quick, it'll be back. I don't need it to wait there right now this instant.
For a temp, if I'm using my personal train, which most likely would be in manual mode to start, I'd want it to switch to manual upon reaching the destination. If I snagged another train, though, I'd want it to automatically leave and resume it's normal routines.

Ansible32 wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:41 pm It's also annoying that there's no "wait forever" option.

Put it in Fluid condition or wait for circuit signal. Done.

I think it's good as it is. I drive somewhere, drop off, and the train goes where it was heading before. If I need it to stay, I'll set some condition to wait. If it's a build train I'm working on circuit conditions of detecting when the construction is finished and all spare materials are loaded into the train again.

Dmytrozern wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:21 am

Ansible32 wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:41 pm It's also annoying that there's no "wait forever" option.

Put it in Fluid condition or wait for circuit signal. Done.

I think it's good as it is. I drive somewhere, drop off, and the train goes where it was heading before. If I need it to stay, I'll set some condition to wait. If it's a build train I'm working on circuit conditions of detecting when the construction is finished and all spare materials are loaded into the train again.

I think you have it right. I've learned to quickly flip the train into manual mode so I can change conditions in the Wait Conditions. Like "Item Count" with no values in the conditions. Then activate Automatic again by sending it to Temp location. I came to this thread because I was looking for somewhere to change the default inactivity value to something like 30 seconds. But clicking a temporary station still means you have to "manage" something. So you're there already.