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rldml wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:43 pm what does the green and the blue column in the demo gif exactly means? And will there be an option to show these columns to get an easy way to identify bottlenecks and something like that?

rldml wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:43 pm Hello there,

what does the green and the blue column in the demo gif exactly means? And will there be an option to show these columns to get an easy way to identify bottlenecks and something like that?

Greetings, Ronny

FFF#274 wrote: Once an empty fluid system (connected network of fluidboxes - pipes, crafting machines etc.) touches either a fluid or a fluid filter, the system is locked onto that fluid. It is then not possible to connect it to another system with a different fluid. There are quite a few actions which can result in merging systems, so each needed to be checked:

Setting a recipe with a fluid input/output

featherwinglove wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:11 pm

FFF#274 wrote: Once an empty fluid system (connected network of fluidboxes - pipes, crafting machines etc.) touches either a fluid or a fluid filter, the system is locked onto that fluid. It is then not possible to connect it to another system with a different fluid. There are quite a few actions which can result in merging systems, so each needed to be checked:

Setting a recipe with a fluid input/output

I'd like to know if the attempt to do this will jam the machine so the recipe can't be set, or will it set the recipe, but the fluid net will not connect to it? It's easy to imagine the latter with just the pipe cover not appearing on the machine and connecting it.

akmotu wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:16 pm The new fluid system looks great!

I must admit, I'm a little scared about the loss of the your macOS devs. I hope you find someone. If you don't, what does this mean for people like me who play Factorio on mac? Could the game go forward into 0.17 and beyond sans mac support? Or will the game not push forward without mac support?

Dominik wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:54 pm It is the volume and speed - numbers you can find in the tooltip, but visible all at once this way. It is already available - go to debug settings ingame (f4) and check show-fluid-box-fluid-info.

Klonan wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:15 pm

featherwinglove wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:11 pm

FFF#274 wrote: Once an empty fluid system (connected network of fluidboxes - pipes, crafting machines etc.) touches either a fluid or a fluid filter, the system is locked onto that fluid. It is then not possible to connect it to another system with a different fluid. There are quite a few actions which can result in merging systems, so each needed to be checked:

Setting a recipe with a fluid input/output

I'd like to know if the attempt to do this will jam the machine so the recipe can't be set, or will it set the recipe, but the fluid net will not connect to it? It's easy to imagine the latter with just the pipe cover not appearing on the machine and connecting it.

You won't be able to set the recipe at all

Mday wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:40 pm Cool update, guys!

Oh yeah, you guys definately have to add a scorpion now. As a background entity, creatable item, or a...err... tank or something.

featherwinglove wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:50 pm

Klonan wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:15 pm

featherwinglove wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:11 pm

FFF#274 wrote: Once an empty fluid system (connected network of fluidboxes - pipes, crafting machines etc.) touches either a fluid or a fluid filter, the system is locked onto that fluid. It is then not possible to connect it to another system with a different fluid. There are quite a few actions which can result in merging systems, so each needed to be checked:

Setting a recipe with a fluid input/output

I'd like to know if the attempt to do this will jam the machine so the recipe can't be set, or will it set the recipe, but the fluid net will not connect to it? It's easy to imagine the latter with just the pipe cover not appearing on the machine and connecting it.

You won't be able to set the recipe at all

That seems like it'll cause problems: I'm thinking that if I can't set the recipe at all, what would happen if I were to rotate the machine, set the recipe while it's not connected, and then rotate the machine to attempt the connection? Will the game crash?

One of the setups I had come to imagine was a workshop machine (AM2 or similar) with three fluid interfaces in different directions, and one item interface direction in the fourth direction. If the recipe is not set, the fluid interface will be visible in absolutely no manner, and it becomes frustrating guesswork to figure out how to rotate the machine before setting the recipe. I can also see similar frustration if someone plunks down a chemical plant or refinery and the pipes leading up to or from it are backwards. Not being able to set the recipe would make it far harder to troubleshoot such a problem than it currently is - at least for inputs. A new player might even mistake this behaviour for a game breaking glitch and throw Factorio out in frustration.