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[15.40] Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:02 pm
by VonFlaffenhausen
Hi,
I had been out securing my borders and had not been in my base for a bit, when I drove my train back to my base, for a split second I thought I saw a biter on my belt but then it was gone. I did not get an alert or anything.
I started doubting myself so I decided to reload an autosave. Luckily, I am not crazy and there really where 4 biters in my base just chilling.
When I got near, they started moving, 3 just disappeared in thin air, 1 attacked me.
Seems,.. buggy :)

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Factorio 15.40

Re: Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:13 pm
by Jap2.0
Can you upload a save where I can do this?

Re: Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:42 pm
by Loewchen
Based on 47345 not a bug. It might look weird, but I think this is normal behaviour if they are not enraged and there is no player nearby.

Re: Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:16 am
by Lav
Loewchen wrote:Based on 47345 not a bug. It might look weird, but I think this is normal behaviour if they are not enraged and there is no player nearby.
Perhaps, but normally I'd expect a bunch of working stone furnaces to be the tiniest little bit enraging to them. :-)

Re: Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:58 am
by 5thHorseman
Lav wrote:
Loewchen wrote:Based on 47345 not a bug. It might look weird, but I think this is normal behaviour if they are not enraged and there is no player nearby.
Perhaps, but normally I'd expect a bunch of working stone furnaces to be the tiniest little bit enraging to them. :-)
I *think* that they only get mad because their base is sucking up pollution. They themselves couldn't care less if they can't breathe.

Re: Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:34 am
by VonFlaffenhausen
Lav wrote:
Loewchen wrote:Based on 47345 not a bug. It might look weird, but I think this is normal behaviour if they are not enraged and there is no player nearby.
Perhaps, but normally I'd expect a bunch of working stone furnaces to be the tiniest little bit enraging to them. :-)
I can understand them despawning at some point due to inactivity.

But they where inactive, then I activated them by getting near, so, now they are not inactive anymore and then they despawn.
Don't think that is intended behavior right?

Re: Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:21 am
by Loewchen
VonFlaffenhausen wrote: But they where inactive, then I activated them by getting near, so, now they are not inactive anymore and then they despawn.
Don't think that is intended behavior right?
There are several independent mechanics to despawn them. The conclusion of other reports is, that unless a save with biters despawning while attacking something can be provided, it is considered intended behaviour. It may not look pretty but it does not seem to have had an overhaul since 0.9, so the bar is quite low.

Re: [15.40] Passive biters chilling in my base till I come near

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:56 am
by VonFlaffenhausen
Ok,
Thanks for clarifying.
We'll leave it at that!