It's pretty great.
I used "h" for flipping horizontal.waterBear wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:37 pm Does anyone know the hotkey to change which side of the belt a recycler outputs on? They changed the default side apparently (at least in some cases) and it has deadlocked some of my designs.
I hate this change. In my opinion, it caused too much collateral damage just to fix a minor issue.Attaching an entity with an filtered input-output port to a pipeline will lock the whole pipeline to that filter.
Sleepy86 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:45 pm Since the update my EM plants making science on Fulgora (previously slowly ~60spm) now don't hold on to the holmium solution being piped in. So if there isn't enough holmium solution to craft a science pack straight away then it slowly drains out back into the fluid system (for the holmium plate foundry to gobble up).
Erfar wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:47 pm So you unreasonably nerfed concrete recycling (It should really take 1/10th of time it took now)
And have not added quality mixing
It is impressive how developers doesn't want to make Quality fun to work with.
Like really whole quality is now just "ignore mechanics exist untill you get to legendary quality" and all inbetween steps just full of misery
radical_larry wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:22 pmThe recycling time for recipes like concrete aren't calculated correctly. They only use the base crafting time, and since concrete is made in batches of 10, the recycling time is 10 times longer than it should be, per item, compared to items with recipes that only output a single item.Hurkyl wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:06 pm The craft-recycle loop with hazard concrete we have now can grind 32 concrete per second into 8 concrete per second with a single (common, unmoduled) recycler and an assembler 3 running part time, and you think recycling should run 10 times faster than that?!?!
Wube first doubled down on that by closing bug reports as not bugs and now tripled down on it by also making hazard concrete as annoying to recycle.
Walterin0 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:13 pm Can we revisit the hazard concrete change? Seems an odd one to pick out as something worth changing, considering all it does is require you to stamp down more recyclers. Doesn't serve to make gameplay more interesting or balanced either. Otherwise, good stuff!
This was previously a fun workaround for the player to discover during gameplay. If the recipe properly accounted for the items per craft, it would at least only be 6.2x as painful instead of the current 62x as painful. If the devs care so much about balancing then they should do it properly instead of stacking a nerf on top of a previously ignored bug/inconsistency.TamTamTam wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 3:46 pm Nerfing hazard concrete recycling feel a bit like a dick move, no offense. It was a technique that felt really smart to use instead of samey recycling. Also, it was kinda fixing what felt like an oversight of recycling recipes not taking in account amount of items per craft and concrete recycling taking more time than crafting same amount of it. I feel like you should've at least change recycling recipes to account for items per craft if you are nerfing hazard concrete recycling.
As an alternative to a mod you can use
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/c game.player.insert("infinity-chest")viewtopic.php?p=695026#p695026Alendo wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:22 pm I just got home, but now I'm struggling to get my headless server up and running.
I get an error that it fails to load mod "quality":
0.329 Error Util.cpp:81: Failed to load mod "quality": __quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:48: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'default_icon_size' (a nil value)
Been troubleshooting for a bit here now, but I'm not that adept in Linux so I might be doing rookie mistakes. Anyone else having a similar problem?
I believe you can hotfix EM plant issue with usage pump as one-way valvevemusa wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 3:51 pmI hate this change. In my opinion, it caused too much collateral damage just to fix a minor issue.Attaching an entity with an filtered input-output port to a pipeline will lock the whole pipeline to that filter.
One collateral damage it caused is that it's no longer possible to use dynamic fluid pipe setup with filtered input-output ports, even if the setup does not rely on the bug it intend to fix.
Another collateral damage is:Sleepy86 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:45 pm Since the update my EM plants making science on Fulgora (previously slowly ~60spm) now don't hold on to the holmium solution being piped in. So if there isn't enough holmium solution to craft a science pack straight away then it slowly drains out back into the fluid system (for the holmium plate foundry to gobble up).
Any mod to revert this change?
Aha, ok, thanks! Didn't even see that postEiermann wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:35 pmviewtopic.php?p=695026#p695026Alendo wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:22 pm I just got home, but now I'm struggling to get my headless server up and running.
I get an error that it fails to load mod "quality":
0.329 Error Util.cpp:81: Failed to load mod "quality": __quality__/prototypes/recycling.lua:48: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'default_icon_size' (a nil value)
Been troubleshooting for a bit here now, but I'm not that adept in Linux so I might be doing rookie mistakes. Anyone else having a similar problem?
How will that help with the fluid buffer changes on EM-plants?Rseding91 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:21 pmAs an alternative to a mod you can useand configure it to void items.Code: Select all
/c game.player.insert("infinity-chest")
Are you sure you wanted to quote my post, not those complaining about hazard concrete recycling recipe?Rseding91 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:21 pmAs an alternative to a mod you can useand configure it to void items.Code: Select all
/c game.player.insert("infinity-chest")
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Disallowed scheduling new deliveries to a space platform with all wait conditions fulfilled. (