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Re: [2.1] certain Space Platform Requests should not dump to Planet.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2026 5:24 pm
by danischu
Nidan wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 4:26 pm
But I don't see anything wrong with using them to fulfill requests, before dumping any remainder into the big storage chest called planet.
That's exactly what i'd like the discard mechanic to behave.
tottoko wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 4:47 pm
However, you overlooked one point: "discarding" means that you don't care about it and can't control where it goes, and the same applies to the ground.
The exact opposite is the case: on the ground if anything discards any items bots will deliver them to open requests from blue chests, then green, then yellow chest with selection, then unmarked yellow chests. And in that order, always.

To that end Alfonse215 raises a great point.
Alfonse215 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 4:51 pm
How would a platform specify that it wants to receive "trash"
It wouldn't. It would receive trash of each item type unless it specified a maximum amount request for that type.
However that'd happen only if there is no station having open requests, like a buffer or hub which would get preferred.

I'll add Nidan's suggestion to the original writeup.

Re: [2.1] certain Space Platform Requests should not dump to Planet.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2026 5:55 pm
by Nidan
Alfonse215 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 4:51 pm How would a platform specify that it wants to receive "trash," and how would it specify that it only wants a certain amount of "trash"? Would this be accessible to the circuit network?
It wouldn't. Requests should be specified by the already existing mechanics, which includes the circuit network.
danischu wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 5:24 pm
Nidan wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 4:26 pmBut I don't see anything wrong with using them to fulfill requests, before dumping any remainder into the big storage chest called planet.
That's exactly what i'd like the discard mechanic to behave.
To clarify, by "fulfilling requests" I mean the existing (min) request threshold; not the (max) auto trash threshold; possibly limited to those requests that allow platforms as source.

As an aside, could you please stop coloring your quotes, some are quite unreadable.

Re: [2.1] certain Space Platform Requests should not dump to Planet.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2026 6:15 pm
by tottoko
danischu wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 5:24 pm
tottoko wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2026 4:47 pm
However, you overlooked one point: "discarding" means that you don't care about it and can't control where it goes, and the same applies to the ground.
The exact opposite is the case: on the ground if anything discards any items bots will deliver them to open requests from blue chests, then green, then yellow chest with selection, then unmarked yellow chests. And in that order, always.
Yes, it has its own logic, which is beyond your control.

Without changing the existing situation (one rocket has only one destination), even a second junk inventory cannot handle this problem because items from different platforms cannot be mixed.

The issue here is that only discarding is a self-initiated shipping action; all other logistics are "requests." The original shipping logic simply moves it to the junk inventory, but you want to rewrite the entire shipping logic.

You must first determine who can receive it, then determine the quantity that can be received, and then drop the items in batches. Instead of doing this, it would be better for the requesting party to send requests; at least, thinking about this part almost got me completely confused.