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Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:40 am
by gGeorg
Pandaaaaa wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:29 am Hey mate,

The new BP is missing the fuel cell input control circuit and inserters etc etc
BP is fine. You or your friends probably change it by yourself. Look at the original :
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and your mangled version :
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Get noticed, the gap between two stone islands?
Also position of edge wall on top is different.
Also shape of combinator cobblestone is different.
Also you made mistake and connected the internal only power grid outside.
You could make it a challenge for yourself, to fix it.
OR
Donwload the BP again and Import the book again.
Anyway, you should ask your friend, dont mess with your creations :lol:

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:45 am
by gGeorg
Pandaaaaa wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:29 am Hey mate,

The new BP is missing the fuel cell input control circuit and inserters etc etc
Hey mate,

I have found, a root-cause of your problem. Probably. You have to update Factorio to at least 2.34 which came up with the new virtual signals. I have used those signals in the input control circuit. Therfore, if your game version is older, you get issues.

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:54 am
by Pandaaaaa
Dont mind the concrete, have slapped it down and picked it up a few times with a few different orientations for my water input. The cement is not collected when using the deconstruction planner :P the spacing between the decider combinator and the border belts etc are still correct. Base game is also up to date as per steam.
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Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:58 am
by Pandaaaaa
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The base blueprint (just re imported the string) is missing components. ;p

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:57 am
by gGeorg
Pandaaaaa wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:54 am Base game is also up to date as per steam.
Steam has stable, and experimental branch. I think that new virtual signals are on experimental only.
Could you double check your current version ?
Start the game, look at left upper corner of the screen.

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:25 pm
by pioruns
I can confirm blueprint is unusable unless you are using experimental Factorio version. You must wait until next stable release to use this.
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Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:53 pm
by WilliW
gGeorg wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:57 pm ******************************************************************************************
If you've noticed any imperfection, or possible improvement, let me know.
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The BP would be really perfect if it did not require yellow science items. Nuclear power is available with blue science only but the build has purple and blue chests. Could you do without those? I know they are just illustrative but anyway, make it perfect!

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:34 pm
by WilliW
I also suggest one improvement to your description (which is already very concise):

If you want to use the power switch with the SR latch that only connects the plant to the main power grid when needed, you have to avoid any other connection between the inside power poles and substations to the outside grid. This easily happens (and it happened to me) when you place a power pole of your outside network too close to the plant. Big power poles easily connect to the inside substations or medium poles, so they need some distance.

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 9:52 am
by gGeorg
WilliW wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:34 pm I also suggest one improvement to your description (which is already very concise):

If you want to use the power switch with the SR latch that only connects the plant to the main power grid when needed, you have to avoid any other connection between the inside power poles and substations to the outside grid. This easily happens (and it happened to me) when you place a power pole of your outside network too close to the plant. Big power poles easily connect to the inside substations or medium poles, so they need some distance.
i have added a sentence
"Make sure, that plant connects only in the reserved spot by a single wire. Especially double check that big power poles did not auto-create an unwanted links, it would ruin the control system."

Does it work ?

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:06 am
by gGeorg
WilliW wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:53 pm The BP would be really perfect if it did not require yellow science items. Nuclear power is available with blue science only but the build has purple and blue chests. Could you do without those? I know they are just illustrative but anyway, make it perfect!
I see. What happens when you try place a BP which contain a tech you dont know yet ?

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:32 am
by WilliW
Does it work ?
Yes, it works!

I am not sure if the design is tileable to all sides, because power poles of different plants might connect to each other. I will try it out.

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:38 am
by WilliW
gGeorg wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:06 am What happens when you try place a BP which contain a tech you dont know yet ?
It puts down the BP without any warning, and the items do not get built.
Known buildings with an unknown recipe show a warning sign.

Re: Perfect Nuclear Cloverleaf v5 - Space Age, Modular 1-4 cores book: 40-480MW, All the bells and whistles

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:33 pm
by gGeorg
WilliW wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:38 am
gGeorg wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:06 am What happens when you try place a BP which contain a tech you dont know yet ?
It puts down the BP without any warning, and the items do not get built.
Known buildings with an unknown recipe show a warning sign.
Well, there are several outcomes:
1. everything work as intended
2. everything work as intended with exception that 2 items are not build
3. everything work as intended with exception that 2 items are not build and you get an error message

Your suggestion to reach higher level of perfection is degrade outcome 1. to outcome 2. which also removes outcome 3.
Well, I dont see it as improvement.