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Mmmmmmorten wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:04 am Still new to LTN and the Tracker, but now that Optera has me onto segregated Network ID's I suddenly feel something missing in the Tracker GUI.
Is it possible to have a pull-down list for Network ID instead of input box? You should be able to poll my active Network ID's used in LTN and populate them in a list with "Show all" (currently -1) on top? If Optera at one point lets us name our Network ID's the list would make even more sense... But with all this 32 bit stuff used - that is way outside my scope of knowledge, I have no idea if this is even possible?

I see two issues with this.

1. Someone could have a lot of network IDs and the drop-down list would become very long and unhelpful.
2. You might want to select network IDs that are not directly assigned to any station: Say you have stops in networks 1, 2 and 4. Selecting 3 as ID would show you stops from both network 1 and 2, but not 4. So the drop-down menu would have to include any possible combination of existing network IDs.

The most easy way for the end user to solve this would be 32 checkboxes, but the most simple way from dev perspective would be a number entry box so one can enter 3, 11, 256, etc.

Right and I was expecting your issues with my wish too, and you would be right I guess.

And I totally see that being able to use the feature in LTN to combine two networks since they are the same binary sum (right?) will be useful, and at some point even necessary for smooth LTN running...

Right now I just find it confusing and difficult...

I will just have to find myself a binary table and start assigning Network ID's. Have to be careful or you might join ID's that you did not intend to join...

But I totally see you point in the problems with a pull down when your active networks are more then the list you have assigned...

/old dude

Reminiscing about the good old days in school - when 1+1 was equal too 2

boran_blok wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:34 am The most easy way for the end user to solve this would be 32 checkboxes, but the most simple way from dev perspective would be a number entry box so one can enter 3, 11, 256, etc.

A table with checkboxes is doable, but not easy to implement and integrate into the UI. Also, I am worried that a mixture of numeric network IDs (in history, station and depot tab) and that kind of interface makes things even more confusing.

Mmmmmmorten wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:23 am Right now I just find it confusing and difficult...

I will just have to find myself a binary table and start assigning Network ID's. Have to be careful or you might join ID's that you did not intend to join...

You are certainly not the only one with that problem. There is even a stickied thread about network IDs. I found viewtopic.php?f=214&t=60334#p363405 and
viewtopic.php?f=214&t=60334#p373964 to be solid explainers.

Again just tossing in my 10 cents promoting the LTN tracker

Right now I'm in the process of building 4800 SPPM base and that unfortunately is all it is..

Days upon days with building, building, building...

... building new ore sites and smelters (everywhere it feels like), green circuit plant, red & blue plant, steel production facility, more depots, power plants, oil refinery, plastic production etc.

Not even started on a single science pack production yet - that is still far off... So why the ramble about building in LTN Tracker forum...

Because the tracker has a really nice visual view of my building progress.. I do try to test my builds when they are done (before I shut them down again) and I can actually use Tracker to see my progress.. My Tracker inventory that I use as a progress bar and build check-list

Thanks LTN Tracker

/old dude

I'd like to make another suggestion:

I really like the "Provided Items" list under the Inventory tab. It's a great overview to the availability of items in my base. However, when an item becomes unavailable (by being below the provide threshold), it simply disappears. When the list of available items suddenly gets shorter, I'm often left wondering what is no longer available.

I was thinking if all available items were cached, then when they are longer available, they could be still shown - but grayed out. They would only stay visible and grayed out for a configurable period of time before completely disappearing. An alternative could be to have a list of "Unavailable Items" below "Provided Items" to make a clear differentiation - they would also disappear after a configurable amount of time.

Once again, thank you for your effort on this mod!

The alert tab has been re-designed for version 0.10.0:

• Stations with error states are no longer displayed on alert tab. Instead, they have been moved to the station tab.
• Train alert descriptions improved.
• Made provider and requester station names clickable.
• In case of incorrectly loaded trains, planned shipment and actual cargo are displayed.
• In case of leftover items after the delivery finishes, planned shipment and leftover items are displayed.
• Added a clear all button to clear all alerts with a single click.

Gullyn wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:43 am I really like the "Provided Items" list under the Inventory tab. It's a great overview to the availability of items in my base. However, when an item becomes unavailable (by being below the provide threshold), it simply disappears. When the list of available items suddenly gets shorter, I'm often left wondering what is no longer available.

I was thinking if all available items were cached, then when they are longer available, they could be still shown - but grayed out. They would only stay visible and grayed out for a configurable period of time before completely disappearing. An alternative could be to have a list of "Unavailable Items" below "Provided Items" to make a clear differentiation - they would also disappear after a configurable amount of time.

Good idea, I will look into it.

Edit: My GitHub account has been flagged for posting too many links to the Factorio forum. Until their support sorts this out, the LTN-Tracker repository is not available.

After updating to 0.10.0 I crash the moment I click the 'alerts' tab. This is on 0.17.24.

Thanks for your report. This is an issue where certain pre-existing alerts are not migrated properly to the new version. I will upload a fixed version soon.

Edit: Resolved in 0.10.1

The elseif on that line should be nested under if data.mod_changes[MOD_NAME] on line 130.

Using Factorio 0.17.24 and LTN Tracker 0.10.1 I get a crash on attempting to load a game whenever any other mod is added to / removed from an existing game using LTN Tracker.

Hi, couple things. The license says no commercial use, so this cannot be used while streaming? People do donate / subscribe to twitch streams.

Also, I'm getting a game crash when clicking Alerts in the latest patch. Here's the screenshot.

Another report of the alert above, latest version etc etc

Dune wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:15 am Hi, couple things. The license says no commercial use, so this cannot be used while streaming? People do donate / subscribe to twitch streams.

As I recall Eduran copied my license from LTN.

No Commercial Use - You are not allowed to make money off my work. Showcasing the software through streaming or similar is exempt from this.

https://github.com/Yousei9/License/blob ... LICENSE.md

1.10.2 fixes errors reported above, this time hopefully without introducing new problems

Dune wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:15 am The license says no commercial use, so this cannot be used while streaming? People do donate / subscribe to twitch streams.

What Optera just said applies, streaming is allowed. I changed the opening post to reflect this without having to click through to the license.

boran_blok wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:34 am The most easy way for the end user to solve this would be 32 checkboxes, but the most simple way from dev perspective would be a number entry box so one can enter 3, 11, 256, etc.

Please do make that hexadecimal.

Optera wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:14 am

Dune wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:15 am Hi, couple things. The license says no commercial use, so this cannot be used while streaming? People do donate / subscribe to twitch streams.

As I recall Eduran copied my license from LTN.

No Commercial Use - You are not allowed to make money off my work. Showcasing the software through streaming or similar is exempt from this.

https://github.com/Yousei9/License/blob ... LICENSE.md

Which makes me wonder: Say I host a factorio server for money would that prevent me to run games with LTN mod added?

mrvn wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:27 am

Optera wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:14 am

Dune wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:15 am Hi, couple things. The license says no commercial use, so this cannot be used while streaming? People do donate / subscribe to twitch streams.

As I recall Eduran copied my license from LTN.

No Commercial Use - You are not allowed to make money off my work. Showcasing the software through streaming or similar is exempt from this.

https://github.com/Yousei9/License/blob ... LICENSE.md

Which makes me wonder: Say I host a factorio server for money would that prevent me to run games with LTN mod added?

Yes.

Would it also be possible to make the delivery history station name clickable?

Also is there any way to actually go to a station once you click it?
A neat feature would be an icon on the station gui like the one a train has. Clicking it would trigger open_map and you could zoom in on the actual station.

cygnos wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:19 am Would it also be possible to make the delivery history station name clickable?

On my to-do list.

cygnos wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:19 am A neat feature would be an icon on the station gui like the one a train has. Clicking it would trigger open_map and you could zoom in on the actual station.

Not a fan of another button, the UI is already rather cluttered. I will check if it is possible to open the station GUI and zoom in on its position.

mrvn wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:22 am Please do make that hexadecimal.

Network ID is already one of the main sources of confusion with LTN. If LTNT has network ID in hexadecimal while constant combinators still take decimal numbers, 90% of players will be lost. Maybe as a mod-setting that is off by default.


My GitHub account has been unflagged and an issue summarizing my thoughts on various suggestions can be found here: https://github.com/eduran84/LTN_Tracker/issues/22