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[CLOSED] 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:36 pm
by vinzenz
Whether you work on mods for Factorio, create tools for mod creators or just play with mods. If you use the Mod Portal, we would like to hear from you!

Help us plan the future mod portal development by filling out the 2022 Mod Portal Survey!

There's already a lot of feedback on the Mod portal Discussion forum. But we don't know how many people would like to see certain features and improvements or how much you like the mod portal in general. The results also allow us to create a baseline for measuring user satisfaction. Ideally (if we get enough responses) we can then repeat the survey annually.


If you have feedback or questions on the survey itself feel free to post here.

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:43 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Hi,

In the feedback, the section "Which parts of the mod portal would you like to see improved most?" could use an N/A or similar column. While it does submit without selection, I don't know how many people are going to try this vs just selecting an answer. For example, I don't use the portal API or "My Licenses" section, so I have no feedback regarding those.

Otherwise, thank you!

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:10 am
by vinzenz
In that case I thought people would choose "Needs the least improvement" option if they don't care about it. But judging from the current results it looks they then just use the middle option for it.

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:15 pm
by FuryoftheStars
vinzenz wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:10 am In that case I thought people would choose "Needs the least improvement" option if they don't care about it. But judging from the current results it looks they then just use the middle option for it.
Yeah, I think many people (well, I am, anyway) are used to the middle being a "don't care" if there isn't an explicit option on the end (sort of like options between strongly agree and strongly disagree, the middle one is typically your "meh" one).

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:10 pm
by robot256
I interpreted "Needs the least improvement" to mean "please *don't* change this".

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:26 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Even going by that definition, I'd still not want to select that for something I've never used because I don't consider myself as qualified to make a judgement on it. For all I know it's absolute crap and definitely needs improvement. How do I know? :P

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:45 am
by Koub
FuryoftheStars wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:26 pm Even going by that definition, I'd still not want to select that for something I've never used because I don't consider myself as qualified to make a judgement on it. For all I know it's absolute crap and definitely needs improvement. How do I know? :P
That's what surveys are for. They're not there for you to tell the absolute scientific truth, but your perception of the reality. That's why science is not made by surveys, but by actual research (except on social medias :roll: )

Once the devs have as many people as possible telling in what direction they feel things should go, they'll know where a (hopefully) statistically signifiant part of their playerbase want to head to. ... and go the opposite way because players are bad at designing games :lol:

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:30 pm
by FuryoftheStars
Koub wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:45 am
FuryoftheStars wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:26 pm Even going by that definition, I'd still not want to select that for something I've never used because I don't consider myself as qualified to make a judgement on it. For all I know it's absolute crap and definitely needs improvement. How do I know? :P
That's what surveys are for. They're not there for you to tell the absolute scientific truth, but your perception of the reality. That's why science is not made by surveys, but by actual research (except on social medias :roll: )

Once the devs have as many people as possible telling in what direction they feel things should go, they'll know where a (hopefully) statistically signifiant part of their playerbase want to head to. ... and go the opposite way because players are bad at designing games :lol:
True, but consider this (albeit unlikely) scenario:
Of all the responses on feature X, 90% marked needs the least improvement, while 10% marked needs the most improvement. How do you tell why 90% marked needs the least improvement? What if all of them marking that answer have never used it? Would this not be different than say only half have never used it? I think it would be.

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:18 am
by mmmPI
I suggest another survey : "Did you use the the middle option because you think it doesn't need improvement, or because you don't care ?"

:lol:

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:04 am
by FuryoftheStars
Oh goodness... surveys about surveys. Where will it end?!? :lol:

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:02 am
by mmmPI
Just here (1)(2)(3)(4)(5) way over there :?:

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:05 am
by ickputzdirwech
I‘d suggest to just evaluate the question relative to each other and not individually. People just clicking anything because they didn’t want to answer the question in the first place will cancel out and the features that annoy the most people will be on the top of the list.

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:30 am
by lyvgbfh
Is there a close date on the survey?

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:17 am
by vinzenz
Very interesting to see all your different interpretations of the "Needs the least improvement" option. Maybe in the 2023 survey I will phrase the question like "What part of the mod portal would you like us to spend more development time on?
lyvgbfh wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:30 am Is there a close date on the survey?
I haven't decided yet, letting it run 2-4 weeks sounds sensible at me. Still getting plenty of responses per day, already passed 500 participants.

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:55 am
by ssilk
Vinzenz, do you give us a summary of the results and maybe what follows?

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:41 am
by Drury
The weirdest part of that question to me is how 1 stands for "Needs most improvement" and 5 stands for "Needs least improvement"

Surely 5 means the improvement is most dire?

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:13 am
by Koub
ssilk wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:55 am Vinzenz, do you give us a summary of the results and maybe what follows?
Maybe in an upcoming FFF ? :p

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:41 am
by vinzenz
ssilk wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:55 am Vinzenz, do you give us a summary of the results and maybe what follows?
Yes, will do that eventually. Most likely another forum post, not as FFF.
Drury wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:41 am The weirdest part of that question to me is how 1 stands for "Needs most improvement" and 5 stands for "Needs least improvement"

Surely 5 means the improvement is most dire?
I tried to phrase all questions so that the more positive stuff is on the right side vs if you don't like the current subject you click on the left. But I see that this lead to somewhat of a dissonance on that question :D

Re: 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:23 am
by vinzenz
We passed 1000 respondents! Will close the survey next monday.

Re: [CLOSED] 2022 Mod Portal Survey

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:02 am
by vinzenz
I wrote something about the survey results over here: viewtopic.php?f=189&t=102879