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In FFF #432 devs posted "Aquilo is notably lacking in basic resources. On the other planets you can land with nothing and build your way to another rocket. On Aquilo if you land with nothing then you can do nothing."

So I guess that should also apply to Fulgora, i.e. players can start a base in Fulgora with NOTHING, which this is an intended feature.

However, in my recent playthrough, I almost trapped there. I landed with nothing, only to find that I was unable to set up a power grid. Lighting rods, either natural or artificial, cannot act as electricity poles. While for standard poles, the small ones requires wood and the medium and big ones require iron rods, so all 3 types can't be made without a powered recyclers. Thus, substations are the only viable option . However, since I hadn't unlock the related tech, I was unable to build one and locked there. Finally, I researched that tech and solved the problem.

Since Electric energy distribution 2 is not a precondition of landing Fulgora, unlike Electric energy distribution 1 (finding Fulgora requires Electric energy accumulators, which requires Electric energy distribution 1), players may make similar mistakes as me when first landing on Fulgora if not spoiled, which is lethal if their Nauvis base ceased to for function for some reason. Thus adding iron rods to ruins drop can solve this issue at minimal change. If devs don't think this solution is proper, possible other changes may include:

• also making research Electric energy distribution 2 a precondition of landing Fulgora

• adding some natural electricity poles as ruins on Fulgora

• adding the function of electricity poles to lighting rods

It was said in the past the middle 3 planets can be built up from a naked crashlanding.

However, if you do not have substations researched, you can not build any power distribution.

Medium and big electric poles require iron sticks, which can not be got on the planet without recycling down with recyclers. Recyclers need power, which needs poles.

Possible solutions:
* Make ruins give some sticks
* Require substation tech for the planet, like how accumulators are required
* Give lightning collector ruins a supply area, or some power pole ruin

TL;DR

Fulgora ruin structures should also drop iron sticks.

What ?

Without the recipe for substations, players are unable to set up a power grid on Fulgora. (Small poles require wood and medium and big poles require iron sticks, which are not available on Fulgora without using a powered recycler.) Since Electric energy distribution 2 is not mandatory (a precondition) for landing Fulgora, there is a chance that players being trapped there when first landing on it without the recipe unlocked first.

Why ?

Prevent players from soft-lock while landed on Fulgora. Enhance the playstyle "land with nothing and build your way to another rocket" proposed in FFF #432.

The details as well as alternative solutions can be found in my original post viewtopic.php?f=5&t=116753. Sorry I didn't find this designated subforum for suggestions first.

I would prefer making substations a requirement as opposed to adding more junk drops to ruins.

Ref: 116753

Soul-Burn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:42 am Possible solutions:
* Make ruins give some sticks
* Require substation tech for the planet, like how accumulators are required
* Give lightning collector ruins a supply area, or some power pole ruin

Is it possible to get to Fulgora without electric furnaces and assemblers on board? I know you can make iron plate in the space platform to make ammo and shoot the asteroids, so maybe the iron rods could be made in space and shipped down? Or just ship down some iron plates to handcraft some?

Unless it's somehow possible to go to Fulgora without any furnaces on board, I think this could work, therefore not softlocking anyone in there.

Wait, nevermind. I knew I was forgetting something. Landing pad. Yep. But if you could handcraft one with the items in Fulgora...

Alenonimo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:38 pm

Soul-Burn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:42 am Possible solutions:
* Make ruins give some sticks
* Require substation tech for the planet, like how accumulators are required
* Give lightning collector ruins a supply area, or some power pole ruin

Is it possible to get to Fulgora without electric furnaces and assemblers on board? I know you can make iron plate in the space platform to make ammo and shoot the asteroids, so maybe the iron rods could be made in space and shipped down? Or just ship down some iron plates to handcraft some?

Unless it's somehow possible to go to Fulgora without any furnaces on board, I think this could work, therefore not softlocking anyone in there.

Wait, nevermind. I knew I was forgetting something. Landing pad. Yep. But if you could handcraft one with the items in Fulgora...

It is possible, as players may import ammo to space platform instead.

Besides, unlike nauvis space, dangerous asteriods float in fulgora space. Thus players may want to send their space platform back to nauvis after reaching fulgora, especially when the bottom part of space platform is unprotected. Thus, space platform are nolonger available.

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