The Hydra Dilemma - A Coop Factorio Playthrough!

[Xecutor]

Hydra is known for an ability to grow two new heads instead of cut one.
In your case each solved problem creates two new ones

[JoshLittle]

What? You recorded an episode (depending on the 21? 20?) and want to wait till Fish posts an episode depending on ...? Also 21? 20? Or your not published 22?
The order is broken for now, but don't make a big chaos of it. Fish has to do 24 and then 26 again and everything will be fine again.

[FishSandwich]

You should really NOT fill in for Fish. Luckily there was no prank from -root this time, but if or better when there will be, I think even Fish will have some trouble to get out. If you fill in, you only will ruin your own episode and the amusement for the viewers

Please don't give him a hard time, he did a good job of filling in for me at short notice, considering it wasn't his day and he had other things he needed to do. If he didn't make the video then there would have been no video yesterday as no-one else was able to do it in time. Also, I'm completely confident in his abilities and I'm sure he would've been able to get himself out of any prank -root left.

What? You recorded an episode (depending on the 21? 20?) and want to wait till Fish posts an episode depending on ...? Also 21? 20? Or your not published 22?
The order is broken for now, but don't make a big chaos of it. Fish has to do 24 and then 26 again and everything will be fine again.

No need to overcomplicate it, my video comes out in a few hours time, followed by Xterminator then -root and then back to me. After that the order goes back to normal.

[JoshLittle]

So you do 22 and Xecutor 23? Ok then you have some kind of order back.

I thought you would grab the chance to prank -root in 24 to his 25

[DerivePi]

I think this will work as a fixed ratio input for the two robot productions.

L1 (local circuit 1) is tied to a smart chest in a toggle switch setup
L2 is tied to the smart chest in front of the logistic bot assembler (LOGBOT)
L3 is tied to the smart chest in front of the construction bot assembler (CONBOT)
L4 is tied to both of the previous smart chests with the other color wire


On the LOGBOT side, the first inserter will operate until the LOGBOT chest has 3 robot bodies in it.
On the CONBOT side, the first inserter will operate until the CONBOT chest has 1 body in it.
Once their are 4 robot bodies in the combined chests, the toggle switch will engage (I usually use wood or standard ammo) stopping the first inserters from operating and starting the second set of inserters which load the bodies into the assemblers.
Once both BOT chests have been emptied, the toggle switch disengages and the system starts over.

[FishSandwich]

Here you go guys, my video is up.

Gawd, Why Have I Done This?! - Factorio - The Hydra Dilemma #22

Next video will be on Xterminator's channel.

[-root]

Anyway, let me just say, that whoever set up that crazy system with wires and wood in smart chests for the robots needs to be hit in the head with a board.

Oh, and its my turn tonight

[Xterminator]

Oh god... Help me! I think next time someone sets something crazy like that up,, I will just ignore it and build my own version somewhere else. nothing like having a spare right?

[JoshLittle]

Here you go guys, my video is up.

Good to see you inserting the iron from the buttom. With some remaining corners to get fast, it could get a full belt someday. Your sixth inserter does it on the side you didn't intent to, but it doesn't matter.
I think the four refinery are good and enough. The greater issue will be to find enoug crude oil for them.

[JoshLittle]

@Episode 23:
You really wasted more time rambling about it than to discover what it means. So when you first didn't know if you are allowed to change something, why didn't you just put in an additional (fast) inserter and an outserter? That would be about 1 min or so

[Xterminator]

Episode 23 is up!
http://youtu.be/6co3GJiKmKg

Yet again I'm left with a mess that I can't figure out.

[Martc]

It's fun to watch how you are destroying root's robot factory

And tip for Xterminator:

Disabling factories with inserter rotation is the worst thing you can do. Nobody will notice that until you completely run out of that product. And in this case it still take some time to discover where the problem is.
I think removing electrical pole is better idea, it is much more noticeable for other players.

[_aD]

Will you stop giving the game away! Where's the fun if someone's set-up isn't subtly damaged and no-one notices for six games? That is half the fun of this series...us as the viewers knowing the changes, and them as the players having to figure it out!

I think the viewers and commentators need to stop spoiling the fun!

[JoshLittle]

It's fun to watch how you are destroying root's robot factory

You can't destroy what doesn't work properly

And tip for Xterminator:

Disabling factories with inserter rotation is the worst thing you can do. Nobody will notice that until you completely run out of that product. And in this case it still take some time to discover where the problem is.
I think removing electrical pole is better idea, it is much more noticeable for other players.

Not really. It is easy to overlook, but you can spot in also by noticing that there is no action. Not on inputs and not on outputs. Even the animation of the assamblers is different. But if you rip down poles everything blinks like hell, the next player thinks that this has to be fixed instead of thinking that it could have a reason. And the logic cables would also be destroyed. So it's ok to rotate the inserters.

[Martc]

I thought it wasn't spoiler, because I don't said where. But I put it to spoiler tag if you think that it is.

[_aD]

Dear viewers,

I [INSERT HYDRA PLAYER NAME], player of the Hydra Dilemma, hereby do solemnly swear that I will not look at any spoiler-marked content on this thread, or any other Hydra-related thread, so that such knowledge does not spoil the hilarity generated when things get messed up. I shall uphold this promise even after I have played my turn and I shall be bound until such times that the game has been horribly lost...I mean, completed.

Signed [INSERT HYDRA PLAYER NAME] on this day [INSERT DATE].

[JoshLittle]

Who said that they never ever see what anyone else did? After the own round is recorded they all watch what happened till the last episode before them. And then there is lack of knowledge again for the next 4 episodes.

[bonob]

Who said that they never ever see what anyone else did? After the own round is recorded they all watch what happened till the last episode before them. And then there is lack of knowledge again for the next 4 episodes.

The oath that _aD proposes would make sense as a new rule though. Until the end of the game, because if no hydra head ever notices that

the inserter was turned off and this damn boiler line isn't even connected to the water at the bottom

and the head who did it / planned it forget about it, then there's no reason to remind them here..

[Blackence]

And tip for Xterminator:

Disabling factories with inserter rotation is the worst thing you can do. Nobody will notice that until you completely run out of that product. And in this case it still take some time to discover where the problem is.
I think removing electrical pole is better idea, it is much more noticeable for other players.

Not really. It is easy to overlook, but you can spot in also by noticing that there is no action. Not on inputs and not on outputs. Even the animation of the assamblers is different. But if you rip down poles everything blinks like hell, the next player thinks that this has to be fixed instead of thinking that it could have a reason. And the logic cables would also be destroyed. So it's ok to rotate the inserters.

Still, the best way to "disable" production is making the output buffer overflow so production resumes automatically once the buffer is no longer full. I.e. just set a limit on that darn battery chest containing (not literally) thousands of batteries. And possibly the sulfur chest as well… However, since this is the hydra dilemma, I agree: the best way to handle this situation is to do something that nobody will ever notice unless they watch that episode.

[-root]

Episode 24

Due to hardware malfunction, the episode is 8 minutes short of what it should be. really sorry about this. The footage is unretrievable, I delete my originals once they are online.

You'll all get a huge surprise when you tune into FishSandwich's episode though. Welcome to the Hydra Dilemma, where even the viewers don't know what the heck is going on!