... deeper the shells have a fixed range and there doesn't seem to be a way to increase their range, making the tank cannon range upgrade by quality purposeless.

I tried looking for upgrades and looked for the quality marker (the blue diamond) but didn't find anything that would increase the shell range.

Since it was on my mind, I decided to look, and... in addition to productivity modules, speed and efficiency modules also have no such diamond indicating that their effects are improved by quality.
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You'll notice that the quality chance shows up without a diamond on ...

I got a tooltip that
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Well, Iron ore does not have a diamond in the Factoriopedia, yet appears to be able to have quality.

Perhaps it could be said that this is not an entity, item or equipment.

But it is confusing. And the only reason I know iron ore can have quality is ...

Rseding91 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:19 pm Thanks for the report however we will not be changing this. The quality bonus is coming from the modules which are benefiting from those modules quality.

But why is there no diamond for the productivity bonus?
That's also affected by the modules quality.

There is a Quality Rhombus (or is it Quality Diamond?) to the right of the Quality % but not the Productivity % (in the Assembling Machine 3 tooltip). Both of these stats are provided from modules, and thus one would presume they would be annotated the same. Based on my understanding so far, a ...

There is a Quality Rhombus (or is it Quality Diamond?) to the right of the Quality % but not the Productivity % (in the Assembling Machine 3 tooltip). Both of these stats are provided from modules, and thus one would presume they would be annotated the same. Based on my understanding so far, a Quality ...

I got a tooltip that
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Well, Iron ore does not have a diamond in the Factoriopedia, yet appears to be able to have quality.

Perhaps it could be said that this is not an entity, item or equipment.

But it is confusing. And the only reason I know iron ore can have quality is ...

Hi,

Thanks for the report

The Diamond is for the item/entity property, it isn't shown in other places in Factoriopedia, just the property/tooltip list

Iron ore quality is important for crafting higher quality plates, same as any other raw resource or intermediary

Iron ore can have quality, but it doesn't receive any bonuses from that quality. (But downstream products can receive bonuses when that ore is smelted and then made into other things.)

I would assume that's why it doesn't have a diamond.

I got a tooltip that
12-12-2024, 21-36-29.png

Well, Iron ore does not have a diamond in the Factoriopedia, yet appears to be able to have quality.

Perhaps it could be said that this is not an entity, item or equipment.

But it is confusing. And the only reason I know iron ore can have quality is ...

... button is pressed.
TL;DR is example of legendary assembling machine 1

Why?
Because it's annoying to push alt button (factoriopedia) and then move mouse to diamond to learn the difference and then forget about this information in about 5-15 min and look at it again.

Again, this is QoL suggestion.

Steps to reproduce:
- open a 2.0.21 world
- obtain hazard concrete (either refined or regular)
- place 4 to make a diamond shape
- copy this diamond shape and place as a ghost
- use pipette (Q) on parts of the shape (ghost or placed) with //// orientation
- press R
- use pipette (Q) on parts of the ...

I remember i also missed that table because it was not obvious to me that i could hover over the diamond, as i usually see it in a tooltip already coming from hovering over something.

It was pointed at me that there is a tips and trick indicating that it's possible to hover over the diamond and that ...

If you mouse over the diamond, it has this information already. But I do agree that a table would be a more accessible way to present the information.


That was so non-obvious to me. The diamond doesn't link to any quality icons in any way, and to me doesn't even suggest hoverable. It would still ...

If you mouse over the diamond, it has this information already. But I do agree that a table would be a more accessible way to present the information.

... screen shots. Let me share the phrases as they appear in-game. From what I can tell you can only see the phrases in question when hovering the diamond icon in the Factoriopedia like this:

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So you can only see them in the context of "Resource drain: 100%" and "Spoil time ...

jdrexler75 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:25 pm Since none of its properties have the "quality diamond", that tells you how it improves with quality (unlike the assembler for example), it should be expected that making it in higher quality is useless.

That's good to know!

Since none of its properties have the "quality diamond", that tells you how it improves with quality (unlike the assembler for example), it should be expected that making it in higher quality is useless.


Yeah, but it would be nice if it actually had some useful quality property. Like more health ...

Since none of its properties have the "quality diamond", that tells you how it improves with quality (unlike the assembler for example), it should be expected that making it in higher quality is useless.

... goes from 30s to 75s when legendary. This doesn't seem to be mentioned in the Factoriopedia anywhere?

It would be nice if one of those little diamond tooltips got added to show that this is indeed a thing. Currently it looks like only range is affected, which would lead to people (possibly) not ...