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Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:15 pm
by dexteritas
What ?
Make "Start Research" Button in the research menu in green and with keybinding E.

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Why ?
This makes it possible to start the next level of a research using only the keyboard (with T and E).
In many other GUI dialogs, the confirmation buttons are already green and can be triggered with the E key. Therefore, it would be expected here that this also works.
Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:27 am
by ssilk
Not sure, if I really would like this, because the research screen is more like the mod-configuration than the crafting-menu.

Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:03 pm
by dexteritas
Do you mean this mod-configuration under settings? It also has a green Button with keybinding E.

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Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:26 am
by ssilk
No, I mean the “mods”-screen you come into from the start-screen.
What I mean is, that - if you change the research-screen - you need also to change the mods-/ the new-game-/ and other screens…
See also this:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73605 in-game mod interface UX improvement: arrow keys and spacebar are usable to enable/disable installed mods
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20714 Ability to use Shift and Ctrl on mod screen.
I’m sure there are more, but hard to find. IMHO it should be so, that the behavior of all the screens should be more or less similar/consistent.
Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:36 pm
by eradicator
+1 for more green buttons :mrgreen:
ssilk wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:26 am
What I mean is, that - if you change the research-screen - you need also to change the mods-/ the new-game-/ and other screens…
I don't follow that logic. Why can't you change one screen without changing all others?
Also the topics you link talk about checkboxes which the tech screen doesn't have.
Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 am
by ssilk
eradicator wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:36 pm
I don't follow that logic. Why can't you change one screen without changing all others?
Also the topics you link talk about checkboxes which the tech screen doesn't have.
Hm. I thought the screens should follow similar workflow-design. There is for example in my understanding not much difference if I download/select a mod or if I research a technology. The checkbox in mods is similar to the technology selection in tech-screen. Both can be done with the same key, both can be navigated with the cursor keys, and so on.
Perhaps this idea is not really useful.

Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:58 am
by dexteritas
ssilk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 am
[...] There is for example in my understanding not much difference if I download/select a mod or if I research a technology. The checkbox in mods is similar to the technology selection in tech-screen. Both can be done with the same key, both can be navigated with the cursor keys, and so on. [...]
I am not sure if we are talking about the same research menu. So I added a screenshot to the original post just to be sure.
So I just tested this: In the mod menu, where the mods are selected by checkbox, I can navigate with arrow keys. But in the research menu in the game this does not work. So maybe we are talking about different GUIs?
Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:20 pm
by eradicator
ssilk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 am
Hm. I thought the screens should follow similar workflow-design.
But that's kinda the point of the post. To bring the research menu to the "new standard" of "green button + confirm with e". I agree that it's desirable to have similar designs. But I disagree with the absolute logic that you have to implement it for all screens at once - which is already not the case.
ssilk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 am
There is for example in my understanding not much difference if I download/select a mod or if I research a technology. The checkbox in mods is similar to the technology selection in tech-screen. Both can be done with the same key, both can be navigated with the cursor keys, and so on.
Yea, um. Same as above. What are you talking about? Technologies are added via double-click - a method not used anywhere else in the game. They are removed via red-cross buttons that are only visible after hovering - a method not used anywhere else in the game. There are no checkboxes and no arrow-key navigation.

Re: Make "Start Research" Button in green and with keybinding E
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:37 pm
by ssilk
@dexterias we are speaking from the same. Perhaps I put too much ideas into it.
@eradicator yes, it’s just a stupid idea …