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[0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:30 pm
by LoSboccacc
after updating from a previous save the inserter that picked from certain direction of belts on edges are now not working anymore

removing the belt and putting it down again fixes the issue

sava: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4w8m3zp37bne ... g.zip?dl=0

here is an inserter showing the configuration which gets them stuck:

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:39 am
by DaveMcW
Not a bug, your output is full.

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:44 am
by LoSboccacc
Look closer. Input electronic circuits are empty. If I replace the belt, the factory load them in input as expected and as how it happens for the other input slots

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:16 am
by kovarex
DaveMcW wrote:Not a bug, your output is full.
Actually, yes he is right, the output is just full, when I take the solar panel, it starts working again.

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:47 am
by dee-
So the question is: should AMs be "greedy", that is, fill all input slots to the max when given the chance, or "lazy", that is, as long as the output slot is full go into suspend, ignoring all inputs and stop manufacturing (actually there is an additional output slot: the currently created item in the AM!)

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:22 pm
by kovarex
dee- wrote:So the question is: should AMs be "greedy", that is, fill all input slots to the max when given the chance, or "lazy", that is, as long as the output slot is full go into suspend, ignoring all inputs and stop manufacturing (actually there is an additional output slot: the currently created item in the AM!)
The current way is intended and wanted. The less items "lost" in the queues the better.

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:32 pm
by LoSboccacc
Then why:

- Other input slots are filled
- Replacing the belt cause the insert to fill the input slot

If the desired behavior is the other, it should be consistent the other way.

Re: [0.11.15] upon update, some inserter stopped working

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:38 pm
by kovarex
LoSboccacc wrote:Then why:

- Other input slots are filled
- Replacing the belt cause the insert to fill the input slot

If the desired behavior is the other, it should be consistent the other way.
Some inputs are filled, because there were simply bigger amounts of items there before the output was filled.

I was not able to activate the inserters by just replacing the belts.