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Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:29 pm Why does the game state need to know what entity the player has selected anyhow? If the player executes an action, pass that action to the server rather than passing the player.selected property. This seems like an unnecessary linkage between view and controller of model/view/controller design.

Lubricus wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:29 pm Why does the game state need to know what entity the player has selected anyhow? If the player executes an action, pass that action to the server rather than passing the player.selected property. This seems like an unnecessary linkage between view and controller of model/view/controller design.

I was thinking the same. Other players don't have to see what you have selected and what you have selected shouldn't directly influence any gamestate that have effect on other players. Similar to the details on mouse movements.

Jap2.0 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:29 pm

Lubricus wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:29 pm Why does the game state need to know what entity the player has selected anyhow? If the player executes an action, pass that action to the server rather than passing the player.selected property. This seems like an unnecessary linkage between view and controller of model/view/controller design.

I was thinking the same. Other players don't have to see what you have selected and what you have selected shouldn't directly influence any gamestate that have effect on other players. Similar to the details on mouse movements.

I don't know - can mods do things when you hover over something? Does the server tell clients what you click on, or just that you click?

Edit - all very interesting, by the way. I'm looking forward to testing it out .

Raiguard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:35 pm

Jap2.0 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:29 pm

Lubricus wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:29 pm Why does the game state need to know what entity the player has selected anyhow? If the player executes an action, pass that action to the server rather than passing the player.selected property. This seems like an unnecessary linkage between view and controller of model/view/controller design.

I was thinking the same. Other players don't have to see what you have selected and what you have selected shouldn't directly influence any gamestate that have effect on other players. Similar to the details on mouse movements.

I don't know - can mods do things when you hover over something? Does the server tell clients what you click on, or just that you click?

Edit - all very interesting, by the way. I'm looking forward to testing it out .

Yes, my mod absolutely depends on player.selected. If they were to take that out, my mod would not work at all in multiplayer.

Jap2.0 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:29 pm I don't know - can mods do things when you hover over something? Does the server tell clients what you click on, or just that you click?

eradicator wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:50 pm @Raiguard: Which one? Tapemeasure at least seems to not need them seperate.

Jap2.0 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:29 pm I don't know - can mods do things when you hover over something? Does the server tell clients what you click on, or just that you click?

Currently "pressed a button" and "selected something" are different events. If i.e. my mod needs to know "did player click on my_building" then i have to listen for the "pressed mouse button" event and then in that event check what the player has currently selected. So theoretically most things could still be done if the two events where combined into a single "player pressed button on something" event. Practically it would be a lot of work to change all existing mods, and of course you lose the edge-case scenarios where you actually want only the selection event, i.e. for some mods that let you "manually revive" ghosts just by hovering them, etcpp.

Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:29 pm Why does the game state need to know what entity the player has selected anyhow? If the player executes an action, pass that action to the server rather than passing the player.selected property. This seems like an unnecessary linkage between view and controller of model/view/controller design.

Raiguard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:35 pm

Jap2.0 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:29 pm

Lubricus wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:00 pm

Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:29 pm Why does the game state need to know what entity the player has selected anyhow? If the player executes an action, pass that action to the server rather than passing the player.selected property. This seems like an unnecessary linkage between view and controller of model/view/controller design.

I was thinking the same. Other players don't have to see what you have selected and what you have selected shouldn't directly influence any gamestate that have effect on other players. Similar to the details on mouse movements.

I don't know - can mods do things when you hover over something? Does the server tell clients what you click on, or just that you click?

Edit - all very interesting, by the way. I'm looking forward to testing it out .

Yes, my mod absolutely depends on player.selected. If they were to take that out, my mod would not work at all in multiplayer.

OvermindDL1 wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:17 pm Tapemeasure uses a blueprint to get extents, so it wouldn't.

Mylon wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:10 pm I'm not saying to remove player.selected property. But the player.selected event.

Ultros wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:22 pm What exactly are the giant basketball hoop and the four pillars entities in the video linked in the FFF?

I've only played on .17, but they don't look like any .16 graphics entity I know of. Are mods allowed on specific clusterio servers?