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bug and suggestions
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:55 am
by woniubbg
hello pyanodon
I'm a chinese fans of pymods poor eng apologize
there a bug since 0.17 py updated
sinkhole and gas vent cant match correct so i cant build it by robots
suggestions
i use helmode to calcute 4scien pack （red green blue purple）225/min（i use the increased mod so the same cout without themod is 45/min）
it needs about 27K iron plate 15K copper 21K tin 6K aluminum 6Klead and21K ZN NI and TI not culcate yet
but 21K ZN plate needs 78.75K iron plate dont know how to buld my production line
in china there are so many players of pymods keep on it
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:39 am
by immortal_sniper1
woniubbg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:55 am
hello pyanodon
I'm a chinese fans of pymods poor eng apologize
there a bug since 0.17 py updated
sinkhole and gas vent cant match correct so i cant build it by robots
suggestions
i use helmode to calcute 4scien pack （red green blue purple）225/min（i use the increased mod so the same cout without themod is 45/min）
it needs about 27K iron plate 15K copper 21K tin 6K aluminum 6Klead and21K ZN NI and TI not culcate yet
but 21K ZN plate needs 78.75K iron plate dont know how to buld my production line
in china there are so many players of pymods keep on it
ZN requires now less iron plate and you can use productivity module to decrease the iron even more
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:16 am
by woniubbg
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:39 am
woniubbg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:55 am
hello pyanodon
I'm a chinese fans of pymods poor eng apologize
there a bug since 0.17 py updated
sinkhole and gas vent cant match correct so i cant build it by robots
suggestions
i use helmode to calcute 4scien pack （red green blue purple）225/min（i use the increased mod so the same cout without themod is 45/min）
it needs about 27K iron plate 15K copper 21K tin 6K aluminum 6Klead and21K ZN NI and TI not culcate yet
but 21K ZN plate needs 78.75K iron plate dont know how to buld my production line
in china there are so many players of pymods keep on it
ZN requires now less iron plate and you can use productivity module to decrease the iron even more
yes i checked the changelog it has been decreased but still needs lot of iron plate
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:19 am
by woniubbg
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:27 am
by woniubbg
if dont change the zinc plate repice i have to increase iron plate product line a block（128*3）*（128*9） is28K iron plate/min which needs 7740borax
and1100 sand mold
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:28 am
by woniubbg
its my 0.16 save
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am
by immortal_sniper1
woniubbg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:19 am
what is your production goal??
mine is 5 scinece/s
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:17 am
by woniubbg
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am
what is your production goal??
mine is 5 scinece/s
mine is 225 （red green blue purple）science pack /min
which costs 32k/min iron plate and 21K/min zinc plate
while 21k zinc plate needs 78.75k iron plate
so i think its not balance
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:50 pm
by immortal_sniper1
woniubbg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:17 am
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am
what is your production goal??
mine is 5 scinece/s
mine is 225 （red green blue purple）science pack /min
which costs 32k/min iron plate and 21K/min zinc plate
while 21k zinc plate needs 78.75k iron plate
so i think its not balance
LOL my target is 5/s ( 300/min ) and my target Zn is lower i think you did a mistake somewhere or used a inefficient recipe
also did you use productivity for the iron sticks???
also productivity for circuits roket parts and lds save a ton of materials
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:58 pm
by TwentyEighty
I'm just impressed you did that whole thing in helmod. It probably took longer to helmod that whole thing than to launch a rocket in vanilla
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:45 pm
by woniubbg
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:50 pm
woniubbg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:17 am
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am
what is your production goal??
mine is 5 scinece/s
mine is 225 （red green blue purple）science pack /min
which costs 32k/min iron plate and 21K/min zinc plate
while 21k zinc plate needs 78.75k iron plate
so i think its not balance
LOL my target is 5/s ( 300/min ) and my target Zn is lower i think you did a mistake somewhere or used a inefficient recipe
also did you use productivity for the iron sticks???
also productivity for circuits roket parts and lds save a ton of materials
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:46 pm
by woniubbg
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:50 pm
woniubbg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:17 am
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am
what is your production goal??
mine is 5 scinece/s
mine is 225 （red green blue purple）science pack /min
which costs 32k/min iron plate and 21K/min zinc plate
while 21k zinc plate needs 78.75k iron plate
so i think its not balance
LOL my target is 5/s ( 300/min ) and my target Zn is lower i think you did a mistake somewhere or used a inefficient recipe
also did you use productivity for the iron sticks???
also productivity for circuits roket parts and lds save a ton of materials
my target is 225 4sicen pack and 300 circuits3 600circuits2 600circuits1
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:53 pm
by reapersms
It does seem slightly inconsistent that zinc is the only ore->grade 1 that uses an additional ingredient.
If you want it to stay that way for flavor or to have it be a tad more difficult than the rest, perhaps a smelter recipe to make sticks straight from molten iron at a more efficient rate?
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:02 am
by TwentyEighty
If you spy on github you'll see that the 78.75K is soon going to be 47.25K. So still more than the rest of the iron combined, but less than before
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:07 am
by TwentyEighty
Don't you have a similar issue with nexelit? To get the insane amount of sand required for nexelit you need to use a lot of iron sticks. I don't remember the numbers though. Maybe it's not as tough as zinc
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:49 am
by woniubbg
TwentyEighty wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:07 am
Don't you have a similar issue with nexelit? To get the insane amount of sand required for nexelit you need to use a lot of iron sticks. I don't remember the numbers though. Maybe it's not as tough as zinc
what is the meaning of spy on github you'll see that the 78.75K is soon going to be 47.25K..
yes i checked the repice of nexelit plate but nexelit plate's weight is not important as zinc plate
it olny needs 6k/min costs 18k iron plate
but zinc plate is very popular of science pack 4 5 and circuit 3 4
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:13 am
by immortal_sniper1
TwentyEighty wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:07 am
Don't you have a similar issue with nexelit? To get the insane amount of sand required for nexelit you need to use a lot of iron sticks. I don't remember the numbers though. Maybe it's not as tough as zinc
true it uses lots of iron but nexelite ore cant be mined that easily so the iron is worth it the next step is super heavy on salt so basicaly the sand step is the last step you should use
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:21 am
by immortal_sniper1
woniubbg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:45 pm
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:50 pm
woniubbg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:17 am
immortal_sniper1 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am
what is your production goal??
mine is 5 scinece/s
mine is 225 （red green blue purple）science pack /min
which costs 32k/min iron plate and 21K/min zinc plate
while 21k zinc plate needs 78.75k iron plate
so i think its not balance
LOL my target is 5/s ( 300/min ) and my target Zn is lower i think you did a mistake somewhere or used a inefficient recipe
also did you use productivity for the iron sticks???
also productivity for circuits roket parts and lds save a ton of materials
use productivity in all circuit producctio
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:35 pm
by TwentyEighty
Yes you're right on both counts. Nexelit is different since it takes iron to mine it. Zinc only takes the super cheap syngas so it's easier to burn zinc ore. I was just wondering if it was included in The helmod calculation.
And yeah you can get some prod1 modules immediately after finishing circuit 2 so you should include them in the calculation
Re: bug and suggestions
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:22 am
by woniubbg
thank guy I.. I've forgeted the proction modules... I'll try it again