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Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:14 pm
by Ixitxacoatl
Hi everyone,

I am trying to build a belt (well, anything really, since buildings don't work either) and everyone works except for the 2 spaces in the screenshot in the middle of the belts (the obvious missing chunks). The cursor shows red (as if there is an obstacle there), but when I mouse over the spot, nothing is selected. I took it a step further and ran the following script where the player is currently standing:

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/c  for _, entity in ipairs(game.player.surface.find_entities_filtered{ area={{game.player.position.x-7, game.player.position.y-7}, {game.player.position.x+7, game.player.position.y+7}}}) do      game.player.print(entity.name) end 
And it only returned the express belt and the player - there's no entity in those squares but it won't let me place anything?

What am I missing here? I'd love to know what these things are (can see something on the picture) and even better, how to get rid of them. I haven't seen anything like this before. Any help is very appreciated.

PS. I'm running version 0.16.43 (is that the problem?)

Ix

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:25 pm
by Loewchen
It's water, you can close it with landfill.

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:31 pm
by Ixitxacoatl
LOL! I feel so stupid. It doesn't even look like water, but thank you so much. Wow, that never even occurred to me (no other water anywhere nearby). Too funny. Thank you so much.

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:18 pm
by Mr. Tact
Weird, when did the game start generating water that small? I've never seen that...

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:53 pm
by Jap2.0
I'm guessing it's an area that's mostly landfilled, or migrated from a previous version - it is strange, though.

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:09 pm
by zOldBulldog
0.16 does that kind of thing every now and then.

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:28 am
by Ixitxacoatl
There had been no landfilling anywhere near there - in fact, I was quite a ways from "home" trying to build there when I had accidentally found it. No water anywhere near it, which is why it never even occurred to me.

Edit - Yes, this save is from a previous version (15.something.. can't remember which version exactly) but I had still never seen water so small before unless it was right beside a larger water mass.

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:22 am
by Koub
This is most likely to happen on transitions between different mapgen version (as in transition from a map discovered in 0.15 and a new part discovered with 0.16) where maybe lakes would have been generated with 0.15 map gen, and land at the exact same place with the same seed. The result would be those very small land/water transitions.

Re: Can't Build and I Don't Know Why

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:15 pm
by mexmer
Koub wrote:This is most likely to happen on transitions between different mapgen version (as in transition from a map discovered in 0.15 and a new part discovered with 0.16) where maybe lakes would have been generated with 0.15 map gen, and land at the exact same place with the same seed. The result would be those very small land/water transitions.
this you can get even on fresh new map, likewise you can still start on 1-4 square islands.

even current mapgen is sometimes derpy.