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Ralimist wrote:I belive this change will make how items are being placed on belts a bit more consistent.

SuicidalKid wrote:Can I ask why you would want this? In your example, it unbalances it from 2 miners on either lane, to 3 on 1 lane and 1 on the other. That seems like a regression to me, as it would make it so you would need to balance the belts afterwards anyways.

dood wrote:How does your example tile and get power?
How is it any better than just 4 miners, 2 undergrounds, 1 power pole?

Hedning1390 wrote:

Ralimist wrote:I belive this change will make how items are being placed on belts a bit more consistent.

It would make things less consistent. Right now it follows the right hand rule, which also inserters follow. I have nothing against it though, as long as your next step isn't trying to do the same with inserters. Stay away from the inserters.

Ralimist wrote:And it will be more consistent with how inserters and miners place items on the belt if they are perpendicular to the belt as seen in the next picture.

Hedning1390 wrote:

Ralimist wrote:And it will be more consistent with how inserters and miners place items on the belt if they are perpendicular to the belt as seen in the next picture.

Is it more consistent just because insterter direction is considered in both cases? Not really. Perpendicular and parallel are fundamentally different anyway so you still need two rules (also corners are treated as perpendicular).
From: Perpendicular = Far side (insterter). Parallel=right side (belt). Two rules
To: Perpendicular = Far side (insterter). Parallel=right side (inseter). Also two rules.

Right now all insterters placing on a belt going around will output on the same line, and all insterters placing on belts going underneath will also place on the same line. This is easy to understand and hard to mess up, and I expect this is why they made it this way to begin with. If you mix which side (left right) the inserter is placing on depending on the inserter direction that means inserters outputting from the same machine may fill both sides of the belt. This seems to be what you want, but it also means you have to be incredibly careful if you have 2 lanes with different items. I don't think it's a good idea, and it would also break every save file forcing people to either restart or spend a lot of time fixing their factory (though that's less of an issue considering its EA status).

darkfrei wrote:Try this mod:
Fix Inserters And Mining Drills Output

darkfrei wrote:Try this mod:
Fix Inserters And Mining Drills Output

for name, prot in pairs (inserters) do
  if prot.insert_position then
    if prot.insert_position[1] % 1 == 0 then --check the modulo of the value to see if there's a fraction.
      prot.insert_position[1] = prot.insert_position[1]-0.2
    end
    if prot.insert_position[2] % 1 == 0 then --check the modulo of the value to see if there's a fraction.
      prot.insert_position[2] = prot.insert_position[2]-0.2
    end
  end
end

bobingabout wrote: though, the implementation is quite crude and applies the maths to both X and Y drop positions without checking anything. This could be potentially dangerous if you try to adjust an inserter that has a drop location that already has a negative offset, as it could set the new offset to a position outside the allowed area, causing some mods to be unable to load.

darkfrei wrote:

bobingabout wrote: though, the implementation is quite crude and applies the maths to both X and Y drop positions without checking anything. This could be potentially dangerous if you try to adjust an inserter that has a drop location that already has a negative offset, as it could set the new offset to a position outside the allowed area, causing some mods to be unable to load.

Thanks for your help. The mod was written in 5 minutes, just proof that it works. Of course place position must be checked before. But this mod works with vanilla and it's some type of success. Enough for 0.0.1