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About (raw) wood recipes

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:32 am
by arl85
Using deconstruction tool, I receive lot of raw wood, so I decided to do something with it and I started analyzing the recipes.

both raw wood and wood have a stack size of 50, but every raw wood produces 2 woods, so basically from 1 stack of raw wood you obtain 2 stacks of wood.
this is in contrast with what happen for metals (1 stack of iron ores produces 0.5 stacks of metal plates)

On power production side, instead

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recipes:
1 raw wood -> 2 wood
2 raw wood -> 4 wood -> 1 wooden chest

raw wood     = 4 MJ
wood         = 0.6 MJ
wooden chest = 6 MJ

reference:
coal         = 8MJ
solid fuel   = 25MJ

[1 raw wood -> 2 wood           ]
 4MJ        -> 2*0.6 MJ = 1.2 MJ

 [4 wood            -> 1 wooden chest]
 4*0.6 MJ = 2.4 MJ -> 6MJ

so we could conclude that

[2 raw wood  -> 1 wooden chest]
 2*4MJ = 8MJ -> 6MJ
Here something strange happens: converting to wood let you loose lot of energy, but while converting to wooden chest you receive back most of them. And a wooden chest is worth 0.75 * coal

TL;DR: there's seems to be no advantage to convert raw wood to wood (wood is less powerful as fuel and occupy twice the space of raw wood).
A viable suggestion may be to change stack size of wood to 200 (so a single stack of 50 raw wood produces 0.5 stacks of wood) and rebalance fuel_value attribute between raw wood, wood and wooden chest.

Re: About (raw) wood recipes

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:26 pm
by xnmo
I I think the reason that is how it is because that's basically how it is in Minecraft. Now that I think about it though, it doesn't make any sense in Minecraft either, because when you cut up wood into planks you both lose some material and make it easier to stack, so you should be able to hold more of it. :?

Re: About (raw) wood recipes

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:54 am
by bobingabout
I agree, wood should stack to at least double that of raw wood. (at least 100.)

Most of the intermediates in my mod stack to 100 or 200 already.

Re: About (raw) wood recipes

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:28 pm
by pyrolytic_tungsten
I agree with increasing wood stack size to 100 and bringing the wood/chest fuel values more in line even though I don't think most people burn such things except to dispose of excess. Perhaps something like:
wood =1.5MJ
chest = 5MJ

Re: About (raw) wood recipes

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:01 pm
by kovarex
Thanks for the info, it has been fixed for 0.11

Re: About (raw) wood recipes

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:45 pm
by arl85
kovarex wrote:Thanks for the info, it has been fixed for 0.11
wood fuel value has been fixed, but stacks are still unchanged.
bobingabout wrote:I agree, wood should stack to at least double that of raw wood. (at least 100.)