Deathworld with low Resources
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:49 pm
Hi fellow Factorio Lovers 
i recently started a Deathworld with low frequency Ressources. Im using RSO so they are really quite far apart (bitergeneration is vanilla tho).
My starting area had about 300k of copper, iron, coal and stone. i also only got 2 measly Oil Wells, but i gave it a try anyways.
It was extremely tough, i beelined to flamethrower and then flame dmg.
I walled myself in and have enough space to build a little Bus, but the low ressources really hurt. With those expensive recipes and research i need more and fast.
I managed to conquer a 2.5 mil Iron field and 2 mill coal, but the next copper is somewhere deep in biterland. My expansion triggerd Blue Biters so without proper defence i will be toast (the expansion itself was already really tough).
Also i see the next Oil Patch with 5 or so wells to exploit. There are some big Bases around so grabbing it will be difficult.
My walled in area is only defended by a 3 thick wall and flamethrowers. It works really well, i only have to replace a wall occasionally (every 20 30 mins or so, so no worries there)
The big question is what to beeline next. And whats the plan with expansions, this worries me the most.
so my Question regarding research and the factory (remember i currently only have 2 Oil Wells, so plastic is very sparse):
- Should i research solar panels and accus to reduce my coal usage? This would be a huge investment in Iron as those Panels are really expensive.
- should i go modular armor with shields and solar panels to expand more easily?
- should i get Laser turrets for defence? This however would use up my coal faster i guess.
- go for productivity modules 1 to increase my Patch yield?
many possibilities and i cant decide what do you guys think?
For Expanding i see multiple possibilities (i have to mention: i plan to go megabase as i intend to finish the spaceX mod someday):
1. Do the standard grinding and wall off a huge area. Aside from the difficulty im having right now with biter fighting, this surely will get really tedious
2. Only build defended Outposts. Here are my thoughts on that:
- Power: as Biters attack Power Poles this is a problem. I could go solar panels and accus for my outposts for idependant power supply, but this will take more space -> more defended area -> more biter killing.
would it be possible to load a fluid wagon with hot water then ship it to the base for some steam engines? i guess ill have to do the math on that one.
- Defence: regarding the power situation and my current tech lvl and little ressources i have available, im guessing flamethrowers again. Ship the light oil to the outposts.
- Trains: the main problem with trains in bitercountry is (i hear) getting stopped and killed by behemoths. I read somewhere tho that a 2 Locomotive train with 4 Wagons can kill a Behemoth, so maybe be sure the train is at full speed. Have the way to the safe Outposts and Mainbase as one block? This would surely slow down delivery but maybe its safer.
Maybe deathworld with low ressorces is not really feasible but im willing to try anyways
Any of you guys already tried something like that? Any tips? Any help is welcome
Prost and cheers,
grossbeer
i recently started a Deathworld with low frequency Ressources. Im using RSO so they are really quite far apart (bitergeneration is vanilla tho).
My starting area had about 300k of copper, iron, coal and stone. i also only got 2 measly Oil Wells, but i gave it a try anyways.
It was extremely tough, i beelined to flamethrower and then flame dmg.
I walled myself in and have enough space to build a little Bus, but the low ressources really hurt. With those expensive recipes and research i need more and fast.
I managed to conquer a 2.5 mil Iron field and 2 mill coal, but the next copper is somewhere deep in biterland. My expansion triggerd Blue Biters so without proper defence i will be toast (the expansion itself was already really tough).
Also i see the next Oil Patch with 5 or so wells to exploit. There are some big Bases around so grabbing it will be difficult.
My walled in area is only defended by a 3 thick wall and flamethrowers. It works really well, i only have to replace a wall occasionally (every 20 30 mins or so, so no worries there)
The big question is what to beeline next. And whats the plan with expansions, this worries me the most.
so my Question regarding research and the factory (remember i currently only have 2 Oil Wells, so plastic is very sparse):
- Should i research solar panels and accus to reduce my coal usage? This would be a huge investment in Iron as those Panels are really expensive.
- should i go modular armor with shields and solar panels to expand more easily?
- should i get Laser turrets for defence? This however would use up my coal faster i guess.
- go for productivity modules 1 to increase my Patch yield?
many possibilities and i cant decide
what do you guys think?For Expanding i see multiple possibilities (i have to mention: i plan to go megabase as i intend to finish the spaceX mod someday
):1. Do the standard grinding and wall off a huge area. Aside from the difficulty im having right now with biter fighting, this surely will get really tedious
2. Only build defended Outposts. Here are my thoughts on that:
- Power: as Biters attack Power Poles this is a problem. I could go solar panels and accus for my outposts for idependant power supply, but this will take more space -> more defended area -> more biter killing.
would it be possible to load a fluid wagon with hot water then ship it to the base for some steam engines? i guess ill have to do the math on that one.
- Defence: regarding the power situation and my current tech lvl and little ressources i have available, im guessing flamethrowers again. Ship the light oil to the outposts.
- Trains: the main problem with trains in bitercountry is (i hear) getting stopped and killed by behemoths. I read somewhere tho that a 2 Locomotive train with 4 Wagons can kill a Behemoth, so maybe be sure the train is at full speed. Have the way to the safe Outposts and Mainbase as one block? This would surely slow down delivery but maybe its safer.
Maybe deathworld with low ressorces is not really feasible but im willing to try anyways
Any of you guys already tried something like that? Any tips? Any help is welcome
Prost and cheers,
grossbeer