StavroM wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:43 pm
... though in my opinion the double power costs for slag seem to be the balancing factor there. Personally, I'd leave all the original recipes as-is (1 brick to 12 charcoal at 2.5MJ each), and eliminate the basic algae recipe entirely. As things are now, the basic algae recipe makes the others obsolete outside of a few edge cases.
randomdude wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:00 am
One subtle change in all this is the fact that with the buffs to arboretums, and the fact that the metal mixing furnace is back at the electronics research (instead of alloy processing), along the small nerfs to algae (with either the increased footprint of the easy recipe, or the nerf to charcoal as it now uses more relative percentage for the algae loop) it might make the rush to arboretums a thing again.
Speaking again for marathon balancing:
The main hit is the slower slag recipe, both for plates and for fuel. for fuel, the basic algae can help (landfill and farms are not so expensive, only the steam engines are difficult), but for plates, there is not much until geodes: There is sorting, mineral sludge, iron smelting to squeeze out more of each slag or run green algae from excess mineralized water.
Scaling up and or researching is problematic with the expensive steam engines and with basically halfed plate income.
Running Arbortums is unevenly more expensive in marathon, because of the steady iron requirement. Have to check, how much it is now with reduced sawblades and if its better than algae.
geodes seem to solve everything, because it produces more than enough mineralized water to power it with green algae. But its a long way there.
I would vote to buff basic slag and ignore/remove or enhance the new slag recipe. This solves 2 things:
- faster plates from beginning, without too big jump to geodes (Its fine, if geodes stays significantly better, but not so much)
- advanced green algae is more competitive compared to basic algae
The new slag recipe is a strange thing. Maybe it would be ok, if the catalyst could be refreshed with a non metal substance (f.e. carbon). I dont know, if it makes any sense in reality.