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[14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:59 am
by wolfwithdances
I have two fully-filtered cargo wagons, each with twelve corresponding fast inserters and twelve filtered chests. However, despite being properly-located with non-empty chests, some of the inserters refuse to insert.

This is on Win 10, version 14.22, no mods, on a 14.22-0 base map.
  • Cargo wagons are fully-programmed. There's not a single unfiltered slot. Unfiltering a slot doesn't get anything un-stuck--it just loads from one of the working inserters.
  • Twelve item types, with twelve inserters, with twelve chests. One item each. (Ignore the double in the top right corner in the screenshot--that one exception isn't helping or hurting.)
  • Train track is straight, at least for the station and all the inserters; this isn't a problem with a bend or curve.
  • Inserters are fast inserters, so there's nothing to filter; normal, filter, and stack inserters show the same behavior. Switching, rotating, and deleting/recreating the inserters does not help.
  • Not all of the inserters/chests/items fail to fill. Some work, and some don't.
  • The slots can be filled manually just fine. Filling and emptying the slot doesn't help.
  • I have all stack bonuses, but this isn't a partial-stack problem seen elsewhere. The cargo wagons have entirely-empty slots waiting for items, but the inserters won't let go.
  • Toggling between automatic and manual train control doesn't help anything.
See attached screenshot, which is the steady-state; nothing is loading or unloading. Any insights or workarounds would be greatly appreciated. Thank you devs for a fun and addictive game!

Re: [14.22] Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:09 am
by tclack
From the picture it looks like the chests and inserters on the top are one tile too far away.

Re: [14.22] Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:18 am
by wolfwithdances
Leave it to me to look everywhere except the obvious. (Thanks.)

Re: [14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:49 am
by impetus maximus
everyone has done it. ;)

pro tip. if you want to double the items you insert into a train, use long handle handed inserters.
long.handle.train.png
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Re: [14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:09 pm
by Rseding91
impetus maximus wrote:everyone has done it. ;)

pro tip. if you want to double the items you insert into a train, use long handle inserters.
long.handle.train.png
Or use stack inserters that move 12+ items per swing instead of 3 per swing and also move faster because of the shorter distance.

Re: [14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:17 pm
by impetus maximus
when i said double, i meant double the # of different items you can load. not the volume.
you know since with stack bonuses it can jam inserters loading a train with multiple items.

Re: [14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:20 pm
by daniel34
impetus maximus wrote:long handle inserters
Long handed inserters.

Sorry, but that really bothers me.

Re: [14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:25 pm
by impetus maximus
daniel34 wrote:
impetus maximus wrote:long handle inserters
Long handed inserters.

Sorry, but that really bothers me.
apologies. corrected.

Re: [14.22] Resolved: Inserters fail to fill up cargo wagon

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:37 pm
by Tym
if you want to be -really- picky, it should be named "long REACH inserter". the claw/hand looks to same to me on every inserter.