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high capacity flag for assembly machines 3
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:10 pm
by LoSboccacc
when you get an assembly machine 3 with three speed module it cannot produce at full speed because the input box is empty so fast that
even if inserters are fast enough to keep up with production, they waste time for the input buffer is to small
sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWRJ0aEDYQ
it is a bit choppy but the part in which it gets to 0 and there is a delay before inserting stuff is visible
Re: high capacity flag for assembly machines 3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:48 am
by ssilk
And your idea is to risen the input buffers?
I need to throw in, that assemblies of that type cannot be handled with belts. You need logistic system to use the full capacity. And then it is no problem to keep up with the speed.
Re: high capacity flag for assembly machines 3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:05 am
by Neotix
You need:
- chest before assembly machine
- upgrade for inserter to move 5 items at once
- fast inserter to feed assembly machine
- faster belts or parallel belts
- logic inserter to control items amount in chest
Your setup just can't handle with providing proper amount of items.
Re: high capacity flag for assembly machines 3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:21 am
by BurnHard
... or you just place a second assembler instead and use some productivity or efficiency modules in both
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Re: high capacity flag for assembly machines 3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:18 pm
by ssilk
But to turn this into positive: I think some lights (flags) on the assembly, that either the input buffers are empty/full (full = double or more than the needed material) or the output buffers are empty/full would be an interesting idea. The same for the refinery and other stuff. When you see also robot streets: every robot has a light, showing the current state. It would help really to see a red light on input, telling immediately, that one ingredence isn't available.
Input sides:
Green: half or more of needed items in the input stacks/tanks
Yellow : less than half but enough for production
Yellow blinking: some in, but some is missing for production.
Red : nothing in.
Output sides:
Green: output stack/tank empty
Yellow: some in
Red: overload, output stack/tank full
Re: high capacity flag for assembly machines 3
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:30 pm
by Holy-Fire
It can be clearly seen in the video that the problem is not the input of copper plates, it's the output of wire.
The machines doing electronic circuits, to which you output the wires, can't keep up, because they have just one basic inserter feeding them iron. Add an inserter for the iron and it will solve your problem, Currently there's just nothing to do with all this wire.
(Then you'll need to make sure your stack size is upgraded).
I guess what confused you is that when a machine produces faster than it can unload, and its output storage fills up, it "takes a break" and refuses input. But it proceeds immediately once the output is emptied to a lower level.