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				[MOD 0.14.x] Wind Turbines - Simplistic Power Source
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:17 pm
				by Dellamonikus
				Welcome, welcome!
What is this mod about?
Wind Turbines! Wind Turbines are another 
source of energy! They produce 
no pullution, just like solar panels, but 
produce energy at night!
So.. are they overpowered solar panels? No! Their 
production oscillates depending on the wind speed.
I seperated them into 5 tiers - the basic one which can be built without any research and is a pollution free way to produce energy in the early game, but gives as little as 
20kW, so you will need a wind-park to get the energy of a steam engine, while the highest tier with up to 
5.2MW can produce more than 10 steam engines together and also saves a lot of space, boilers and coal in comparison.
The higher tiers are built by combining 4 lower tier Wind Turbines, together with some science-packs!
The higher tier Wind Turbine will produce a little bit less than the 4 lower Wind Turbines, so upgrading is only useful if you want to save space.
Just to empathize this: The power-value in the description is the 
maximum possible production value. The average production will be around 
half of that and can even go down to 0, if no wind blows.
Wind Turbines aren't meant to be the only energy production in your base, but they are a very nice addition to solar panels to produce clean energy.
Version 1.0.3 for Factorio 14.x+ (downwards compatible to 0.13)
Download
PS: This mod is created as a standalone-expansion of 
this mod, which has the CC Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 license.
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:46 pm
				by Marconos
				** removed
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:55 pm
				by Klonan
				One small point,
When you source assets and code from other mods, you have to make sure you comply with their license,
In this case the original mod is licensed under 
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 Generic (CC BY-SA 2.5), 
which means you must attribute the original author, and include this license with your work
Apart from that it looks like a solid mod, nice graphics and really well coded
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:49 am
				by Dellamonikus
				Oh okay, I didn't know I have to do that in wich this license, thanks for the advice.
I added that to the original post.
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:41 am
				by BlakeMW
				In terms of balance generally speaking for higher tier things you should pay about four times as much to double output. For example the assembler 2 costs twice as much as the assembler 1, but is only 50% faster, and the Assembler 3 costs 7x as much as the Assembler 2, and is only 67% faster
So if you want the cost effectiveness to be in line with the base game, the output progression should probably be something like:
20MW
40MW
80MW
160MW
320MW
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:25 pm
				by Dellamonikus
				BlakeMW wrote:So if you want the cost effectiveness to be in line with the base game, the output progression should probably be something like:
20MW
40MW
80MW
160MW
320MW
I assume you mean kW, not MW - but yea, I get your point, but it is only true for processing stuff.
Energy generation can always just be built in huge amount, scaling linearly because there are no higher tiers.
I want to allow not having a baseball field full of wind turbines to get a factory running, so I guess it makes sense to quadruple production along with cost. Cost should maybe be a little bit higher to make up for the "saved space" advantage, but other than that it seems fine imo.
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:54 pm
				by Yinan
				How does the turbines fit into the priority use system?
Currently first Solar Energy is used, then Steam Energy and lust the energy from accumulators.
Where do the Wind Turbines fit in? Do they count as Solar, Steam or Accumulator?
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:04 pm
				by Klonan
				Yinan wrote:How does the turbines fit into the priority use system?
Currently first Solar Energy is used, then Steam Energy and lust the energy from accumulators.
Where do the Wind Turbines fit in? Do they count as Solar, Steam or Accumulator?
Wind turbines are used before steam engines, and after solar panels
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:00 pm
				by Yinan
				Wonderful, thanks for the info!
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:01 pm
				by y.petremann
				I can give you some advice about logic and beauty of the game :
- Avoid using science packs for something else than technology, circuits, advanced circuit and processing units a great for that.
- I think graphics should be more sophisticated, for my point of view they feel rushed.
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:40 pm
				by Factorio2016
				The requested file isn't available anymore!
Error: 410
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:29 pm
				by ssilk
				Looks like. 
I can only really recommend to upload the mods into the forum as attachment. So you get also a counter about downloads. 

 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:40 am
				by thebacon
				Or upload to github, and use a page like this:
http://www.somsubhra.com/github-release-stats/
To be able to pull download amounts.
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:28 pm
				by Nerevar
				Looks like a great mod, but as noted by others the download page goes nowhere.
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:43 pm
				by Klonan
				Nerevar wrote:Looks like a great mod, but as noted by others the download page goes nowhere.
You can download the original here: 
viewtopic.php?f=93&t=16734 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:28 am
				by Schlubberwuz
				is it ok if i repostet the file ?
if not pls say and i will delete the post
Edit: the mod developer has the file reuploaded.
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:07 am
				by seronis
				Schlubberwuz wrote:is it ok if i repostet the file ?
if not pls say and i will delete the post
License == Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 license.
You stated it as a repost thus attribution is obvious as being the OP.  AKA: you fulfilled license requirements for distribution and no specific permission is needed (nor can it even be denied). Thats why licenses exist.  Follow them and you're fine.
 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.26] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:59 pm
				by Dellamonikus
				y.petremann wrote:I can give you some advice about logic and beauty of the game :
- Avoid using science packs for something else than technology, circuits, advanced circuit and processing units a great for that.
- I think graphics should be more sophisticated, for my point of view they feel rushed.
 
Any reason to avoid science packs?
Well, the graphics 
are rushed - if someone has better graphics, let me know! 

 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.27] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:57 pm
				by Schlubberwuz
				hey, i see you have a update, can you pls post the changes (like the other mods)?
thank you
			 
			
					
				Re: [MOD 0.12.27] Wind Turbines - Changing the electricity game!
				Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:12 am
				by azsedcf
				Edit: Issue Fixed.