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Re: Development and Discussion

Post by Cabble » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:47 pm

Yep! Pretty much. Though I'd really like to have a good copper sink. :P

Btw. some months ago I made a little donation for you (10€ I think) but got no reponse. :(

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Re: Development and Discussion

Post by Arch666Angel » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:03 pm

Cabble wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:47 pm
Yep! Pretty much. Though I'd really like to have a good copper sink. :P

Btw. some months ago I made a little donation for you (10€ I think) but got no reponse. :(
I read that and thank you :) I usually don't write answers directly to these messages, but donators might end up as a name giver for a new plant/crop or something else I'm creating for the mods :)

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Post by Cabble » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:06 pm

Sounds nice! :)
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Re: Development and Discussion

Post by BlueTemplar » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:29 pm

tbelaire wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:42 pm
Getting nickel and cobalt lets you use a better steel recipe.

And then you also want nickel + steel and cobalt + steel for the cobalt steel and nickitol so it's nice to have those right there.
Well, the first ones are Steel 3, so I'm still far away from that,
I haven't used Invar much, uses for Nitinol are still far away (that's one example of a tech that seems to be misplaced in the Blue Science ?)
but I see that nickel can be used in the Iron 3 recipes, which is pretty close - thanks !

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Re: Development and Discussion

Post by mrvn » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:19 am

tbelaire wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:59 pm
mrvn wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:47 pm

The thing with Ferrous/Cupric ore is that it has no waste product and no catalyst or other. Just plain crushed ore to finished product(s). It's the most efficient way to create plates (I'm not considering power, but I think it wins there too).

I don't see anything I get from later Ferrous/Cupric that I can't get otherwise and the mixed sorting lets me make up any ratio imbalances I have imho cheaper than using the later Ferrous/Cupric methods with their different ratios. But that's a gut feeling so far.
Two things, one, you need to add cupric chloride to complete the ferrous chain, and vice versa for Cupric, so there is some "catalyst" used up. Not to mention sodium hydroxide.

Two, you need to run the full Ferric process to get Chrome for black circuits. And everything from the iron chain can be used to make steel and iron, so it's possible to use it instead of combo sorting to get iron, and pull off only as much chrome as you need.

With Cupric, I don't see it. Sure, making circuit boards and tinned copper wire requires 1:1 copper and tin, which isn't bad, but I'm not really sure what to do with the higher levels. I've got one facility that does the lv 2, with silicon and tin and copper, and also does combo aluminum sorting, and produces tinned copper wire / plates, and aluminum but that's not that impressive.

I would actually really like it if I could run the higher levels without getting nearly as much copper. I'm not sure what to do with it all. I don't need that much copper wire. (I think? I haven't actually done the full math on that, and I produce copper wire separately in an older part of the base, with copper from mixed sorting I think). As it is, I don't really see a reason to do full Cupric chain.
I was talking about the first tier of Ferrous/Cupric. That way my point. The first stage is the most efficient way to make plates. After that it becomes less efficient for the added benefit of more complexity.

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