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I am on the experimental branch, and i am quite unhappy with some of the changes.
one the biter expansions. i appriciate there is a discussion going on about this. but i am not unhappy that expansions now are larger. i am unhappy that expansions now spawn behind my defenses in areas biters should not be able to reach.
i HATE this. it makes no sense and it frequently forces me to travle back to nauvice to fix issues i feel i did all i could to to prevent.

the second change i am VERY unhappy with is rocket loading. I DO appriciate the option that rockets can use mixed loads. i can be nice espeically when building new platforms.
but the systems just seeems so poorly implemented.
one issue: if i request 100 of something, the game will just send 10 if thats what i currently have and then just sends 10 rockets. this of course makes things extremely inefficient. any overhead there was before the change for oversupplying is blown up by a magnitude now.
it gets even worse if i request different items at one time. because then the game will decide to mix rockets even if i request multiple of rocket loads and then oversupply.
there does not seem to be a way to prevent this. even if i specify a custom minimum rocket size of one rocket load, the game will ignore this if it feelts like it.
this just sucks. where it was a very predictable but - in fringe cases - wasteful system before, it now is total chaos and always wasteful.

well. if it was just for the rockets i mighty just shrug and wonder what you where rolling, build more rocket silos and ignore the problem. but this expansions spawning behind my defenses is just klling it for me.

Rauschkind wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 3:32 pm i am unhappy that expansions now spawn behind my defenses in areas biters should not be able to reach.
i HATE this. it makes no sense and it frequently forces me to travle back to nauvice to fix issues i feel i did all i could to to prevent.

That is a bug and should be reported.

That said, it's more likely that either:

• You did not actually physically block biters from reaching the area where they formed an expansion
• There have been nests behind your lines the whole time and that's where they expand from. They expanded there after you first scouted the area and you haven't gotten vision on them since, so they're hidden in the fog of war.
• There is, I think, a rare edge case where an expansion nest can settle near a cliff (or a small water gap) and spawn biters on the other side. Also, I think it's possible to settle so close that the cliff is in the way of an expansion spawner and gets destroyed when the spawner is created. So a cliff you were relying on as a border may not be functioning as such.

None of these are 2.1 specific.

Rauschkind wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 3:32 pm I am on the experimental branch,
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there is a discussion going on about this.

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Also running your text through a spellcheck is very nice for others, who take time out of their day to read your post.

Regarding the rocket launch, one thing that could help is to be more specific about what the platform is requesting and what was shipped. For example, did you change the minimum load?

I'm closing this, if you see balancing issues make one topic per specific issue and describe precisely what, why and how you want to have changed.