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Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2026 9:05 pm
by radical_larry
Increasing the temperature of hot steam to 515C would fix all the weird ratios (103 steam/s on the heat exchanger, 5.82MW on the turbine) to nice and round numbers (100 steam/s and 6MW) and the next update seems like the perfect opportunity to do it. Heat exchangers should of course only work at above 515C in that case.
It was even done correctly for boilers and steam engines by using 165C steam instead of 150C.

Re: Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:37 am
by dupraz
It's an easy fix you can implement by yourself, since it's already exposed by the API:
https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/pro ... emperature
https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/pro ... emperature

Currently it's not even 103 steam/s but exactly 100/0.97, as in 103.0927835... (go figures)
Effectively changes the ratio from 5.82/10 to 6/10:

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Re: Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:47 am
by radical_larry
I know it's an easy fix, which is why I'm asking for it to be in vanilla. 2.1 looks like the QoL update with changes that are not backwards compatible for some designs, so might as well fix it now.

Re: Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:51 am
by dupraz
Maybe you'll get a reply in time before release if you link this post in a bug report, you can argue it's effectively inconsistent with 150+15 already accouting for the ambient temperature (15°), and likely an oversight more than a conscious design decision (which only fixes the boiler at 10 MW and the turbine at 60/s).

Re: Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:08 am
by InUniverse
As far as I'm concerned, these buildings not having a clean ratio is a deliberate part of the challenge of setting up a nuclear reactor.

Re: Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:16 am
by dupraz
It's not a challenge, because it's no longer a ratio, as 100/0.97 is quite literally non-decimal (uses floating point math).
This is exactly how much steam a heat exchanger produces:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=100%2F0.97

Re: Fix heat exchanger/steam turbine ratios for 2.1

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 1:28 pm
by boskid