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[2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:26 pm
by schmutzmeisteR
Hi, in my game I have a strange relic of an enemy contact on my map in gleba. See attached Screenshot. You can also load attached save and see it. If you zoom in there is nothing there. If you go there, nothing there. It has persisted for over 20 hours now. Latest Version, no mods, no cheats, no console usage. Pure vanilla SA.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 7:28 pm
by Rseding91
Thanks for the report. Do you know of any way to reproduce this? I notice the save file has been migrated through several game versions so there's a chance this has already been fixed - unless you know how to make it happen again.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 7:55 pm
by schmutzmeisteR
I had it happen before, when I was arriving fresh on gleba and needed eggs for the first time, around ~4-5 weeks ago. It was in the same area of water, but not exactly the same position. I was able to go there and use deconstruct planer over it, and it would disapear. Then I left gleba and did aquilo and later I came back and installed artillery, then it happened again and now it cant be "deconstructed". This is only 1-2 weeks ago, so it happened with .60
I will try if I can trigger it again.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:12 pm
by schmutzmeisteR
I just checked achievement dates on steam. I first travelled to Gleba on 24.07. So this all happened with 2.0.60
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:40 pm
by schmutzmeisteR
I went to gleba and battled with pentapods, and had it happen again within 3 minutes. Attached Save has a second red spot on the coast to the right. I cant realiably recreate it at will though. Repeated it a couple times, and it did not happen again.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:43 pm
by Rseding91
The key part is if a red dot stays there after you re-visit it. A red dot existing and then going away when you walk back to it is expected if the last time it refreshed there was an enemy, and then you walk out of range and it moves without you being there to force a map refresh.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:49 pm
by schmutzmeisteR
Yes I understand that. But I'm standing right next to it. It is only visible on mapview, not on minimap.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:11 am
by Meehael
Just wanted to say that I had the same thing. A red dot from time to time
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:42 am
by Rseding91
If anyone finds a way to reproduce it I can get it fixed. Maybe something as simple as a save file with the replay setting enabled - some commands to get to Gleba, and then make it happen. If it does - save that and send it and I can watch it to see how it's happening to get it fixed.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:48 am
by Quezler
Looks like the red dot vanishes if you pace a tile down somewhere *in* that chunk, like landfill, so its not an invisible lingering entity.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 12:15 pm
by Quezler
managed to reproduce it a few times, its a bit random so on the recording skip to the 3 minute mark, it seems to be related to the last entity in a chunk dying right along the border of a neighboring chunk.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:20 pm
by Jap2.0
I've had the same thing happen several times. I'll see if I can catch it in a replay at some point if I remember.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:36 pm
by Loewchen
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:16 pm
by Rseding91
I was finally able to reproduce it and found the underlying issue.
Re: [2.0.60] Red Dot (enemy) on Map but there is nothing there
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:19 pm
by schmutzmeisteR
oh very nice, I thought it maybe had to do with the pentapod strafers homing projectiles turning to squigglers over deep water, but it seems to be an older issue that can happen everywhere (?)