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TL;DR

Remove the mod dependency that requires the Quality mod in order to load the Space Age mod.

What?

Be able to load and play Space Age without having to load the Quality mod.

Why?

You can play Space Age and win without using any quality modules or doing quality research. You should not have to load the Quality mod unless you want and intend to use it.

Space Age requires the recycler that is included in the Quality mod.

Nemoricus wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:47 pm Space Age requires the recycler that is included in the Quality mod.

I mean, that could be changed

Kinda +1, as I thought the intention was to make Space Age playable without Quality ("The expansion is balanced in a way that using quality can be beneficial, but it is reasonable to finish the game without touching quality at all." from Factorio Friday Facts 375 https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-375, and some other communications I can think to vaguely recall from later).

At the same time, this would probably then make Quality dependent on Space Age, which I don't know if that's actually a net benefit.

Yes. We currently have to mod the game to disable Quality. It should be optional.

Why just... not research quality?

Hommit wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:59 pm Why just... not research quality?

If you're running a multiplayer server, someone might research the first quality level when the host didn't want them to, and there's no way to change all the user interfaces back to just normal.

It's possible to make a mod that hides the technology, but that's much less intuitive than unchecking "Quality" in the mods list.