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[GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:17 pm
by valneq
Here seen in German, but the colors should be independent of locale

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Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] New copper wire icon has bad contrast when used in tips&tricks
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:56 am
by MrNukealizer
To add onto that, it's very strange that copper wire doesn't look anything like copper. I can understand if it's intentionally not copper-colored so colorblind people can more easily tell it apart from red and green wires, but there should at least be some middle ground where it's somewhat coppery and not just a hollow outline.
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] New copper wire icon has bad contrast when used in tips&tricks
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:33 am
by Muche
MrNukealizer wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:56 am
To add onto that, it's very strange that copper wire doesn't look anything like copper. I can understand if it's intentionally not copper-colored so colorblind people can more easily tell it apart from red and green wires, but there should at least be some middle ground where it's somewhat coppery and not just a hollow outline.
See e.g.
121481 Please, please change the experimental icons in 2.0.18 further.
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] New copper wire icon has bad contrast when used in tips&tricks
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:21 pm
by valneq
MrNukealizer wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:56 am
To add onto that, it's very strange that copper wire doesn't look anything like copper. […]
I don't care about it looking like copper. This might as well be renamed into "electric cabling" because there is no more context for the material it is made of, it is no longer an item, and indeed should not be confused with "copper wire" which you need for green circuits. I only care about the visual contrast in the tips&tricks, which currently, is really really bad.
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] New copper wire icon has bad contrast when used in tips&tricks
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:28 pm
by valneq
I just noticed another related thing. After clicking any of the wire shortcuts, you still get an icon of the old items in your hand … (here red wire)

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Not sure if this is intended … but considering the new icons were meant to be more distinct, this feels like an oversight.
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:50 pm
by Loewchen
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] New copper wire icon has bad contrast when used in tips&tricks
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:53 pm
by Hares
valneq wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:28 pm
I just noticed another related thing. After clicking any of the wire shortcuts, you still get an icon of the old items in your hand … (here red wire)
grafik.png
Not sure if this is intended … but considering the new icons were meant to be more distinct, this feels like an oversight.
Hexed it.
New icons are worse and have less contrast on cursor. Even colored cables.
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] New copper wire icon has bad contrast when used in tips&tricks
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:07 pm
by Meddleman
valneq wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:21 pm
I don't care about it looking like copper. ...there is no more context for the material it is made of
To be fair, the context is now the color of the
connection you see in the world view between machines/poles/combinators/power-switches. That
is copper/brass colored -
as it always has been - and I see no reason it shouldn't match, irrespective of the item/button's history.
On the topic of color, the "new" icon colors for Red and Green wire - specifically the green - is quite dark and dare I say "dull". Even the actual wire-connections in the world-view are an expressive, bright red or vibrant (cyan-)green, and it would be nice to see this folded in with the changes.
Perhaps using the same palette as the original wire-connection icon colors as historical homage?
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:08 pm
by Muche
FYI: the wire has been updated in 2.0.27.
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:22 pm
by IsaacOscar
Muche wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:08 pm
FYI: the wire has been updated in 2.0.27.
Yup, much better:

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Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:40 pm
by Hares
Now it looks like a red wire to me
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:46 pm
by IsaacOscar
Hares wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:40 pm
Now it looks like a red wire to me
Your right, the colour doesn't match the actual wires, but the circuit wires do:

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Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:48 pm
by Hares
Should be golden yellow, probably
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:46 pm
by IsaacOscar
Hares wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:48 pm
Should be golden yellow, probably
Like this?

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(see my new mod!
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/coloured-tool-icons)
Re: [GFX] [2.0.19] "Make copper wire" icon has bad contrast on dark background
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:55 pm
by Hares
IsaacOscar wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:46 pm
Hares wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:48 pm
Should be golden yellow, probably
Like this?
12-20-2024, 00-30-14.png
(see my new mod! mods.factorio.com/mod/coloured-tool-icons)
Yeah, like so. Good job, BTW!