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Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:16 pm
by Justderpingalong
Because right now we have rockets (the ones you shoot at enemies) and rockets (the ones that shoot stuff from silos into space). Which is a tad confusing.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:13 am
by Mango
Or add rackets (the ones you play tennis with)

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:17 am
by BlueTemplar
Both great ideas.

Tennis mode vs spitters when ? :lol:

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:40 pm
by cbtmessageman
Justderpingalong wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:16 pm Because right now we have rockets (the ones you shoot at enemies) and rockets (the ones that shoot stuff from silos into space). Which is a tad confusing.
I disagree. One of the differences between rockets and missile, in my mind, is that rockets are unguided weapons while missiles are guided. Part of the 2.0 update removed the Electronic Circuit from the ammo recipe, now making it a "dumb" weapon. A rocket.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:43 pm
by BlueTemplar
Pretty sure that Factorio's 'rockets' actually lead their targets ?

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:04 pm
by Justderpingalong
cbtmessageman wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:40 pm
Justderpingalong wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:16 pm Because right now we have rockets (the ones you shoot at enemies) and rockets (the ones that shoot stuff from silos into space). Which is a tad confusing.
I disagree. One of the differences between rockets and missile, in my mind, is that rockets are unguided weapons while missiles are guided. Part of the 2.0 update removed the Electronic Circuit from the ammo recipe, now making it a "dumb" weapon. A rocket.
Frankly even if this is technically correct (and I am pretty sure the rockets we have still have some leading making them smart), I believe my point still stands. Because the naming is confusing, or can be. Making the names different would solve that.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:53 pm
by ManaUser
They almost never rename items (stack inserter to bulk inserter is the only time I can think of), but I agree, it would be nice if the weapon ammo didn't have the same name.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:37 pm
by BlueTemplar
Even more when the space-rockets are now such an integral part of the game, and not limited to just winning the game or megabasing !

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:04 pm
by jamiechi1
I Disagree with the OP. They have always been called rockets since even before Sputnik was launched. It has been the common term in English and many other languages for over 70 years.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:32 am
by BlueTemplar
But you do, that's not what OP said..?

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:58 am
by Koub
We do have different words in French for space-rocket (fusée), weapon-rocket (roquette), and missile (missile).
ManaUser wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:53 pm They almost never rename items (stack inserter to bulk inserter is the only time I can think of), but I agree, it would be nice if the weapon ammo didn't have the same name.
There were some renamed items in the past. Basic bullets have been renamed to firearm magazine, iron armor became light armor, battery became personal battery, most science packs were renamed (red, green, blue, purple), I think the beacon started as basic, suggesting a future tier 2, but lost the basic along the way, and same thing with the small pump, which is not that small after all. I'm sure this list is not exhaustive, but proves occasional renaming does happen.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:41 am
by BraveCaperCat
A very simple mod could do this... Just a simple locale change and now there are missile weapons instead of rockets.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:13 pm
by Tinyboss
Has anyone ever been legitimately confused by this? I'm struggling to imagine a case where context would not make it clear.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:45 am
by BlueTemplar
I was, at first.

See also :
[2.0.9] Laser Turrets, Gun turrets, and personal laser defense are described as having rocket capacity

Though this change would only barely help with the above confusion, the player would then have to notice that the hand-held launcher (presumably sil very far-off in research yet at that point) is called "missile launcher" instead.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:45 am
by BraveCaperCat
Tinyboss wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:13 pm Has anyone ever been legitimately confused by this? I'm struggling to imagine a case where context would not make it clear.
See this.

Re: Rename rockets (the ones you can shoot from launcher) to missiles

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:32 pm
by Tinyboss
BraveCaperCat wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:45 amSee this.
Oh, I was thinking in-game and totally forgot about scripting, doh! Excellent point and I now understand the need.

I don't think they can remove any names without breaking things, but they could add new ones and deprecate the old ones.