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Only if they get all the money from the sale, which they surely won't, and the cost to the purchaser is the same, which it doesn't seem to be for me.NineNine wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:12 pm Steam takes 30%, so WUBE makes 43% more when people buy it directly from them instead of buying through Steam.
I mentioned it in my post but someone said that they use Himble for the website sales which charge 25%. Steam has apparently tiers where the fee % goes lower as you sell more.NineNine wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:12 pm Steam takes 30%, so WUBE makes 43% more when people buy it directly from them instead of buying through Steam.
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Nope. 30%. Same as Steam.Jeebz wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 12:44 pm What about GOG? I thought they have lower cuts compared to other platforms
This trick has limits. As far as I understood:Frogbeerr wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:07 am Afaik Steam only takes the 30% if you actually buy it through the Steam store. If you buy directly on their homepage all the money goes to the devs. The provided Steam key will not cause them any additional costs.
This is a standard document, obviously this doesn't apply to Wube/Factorio since they have worked out a deal where they are not lomited to 5000 keys and do not have to get case by case approval for each key. Wube is trusted by Valve to give keys for direct sales at equal price. They are selling millions...Nosferatu wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:42 pmThis trick has limits. As far as I understood:Frogbeerr wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:07 am Afaik Steam only takes the 30% if you actually buy it through the Steam store. If you buy directly on their homepage all the money goes to the devs. The provided Steam key will not cause them any additional costs.
if to many use it Wube will run out of Steam keys.
Source:https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys
As I said: They definitly do. Nothing else would make sense.Nosferatu wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:15 am They surely have more then the initial 5000.
A lot more and maybe also a special deal for automatic activation of new ones.
If Wube activly promoted it, through steam, to asking users to buy through their website instead then sure. But not if they just tell you that they get more but the price is the same, on factorio.com. and Wube won't be held responsible for what users say, it's not a secret. The user gets the same thing from the same price and isn't asked by Wube to not buy through steam so there's no issue.Nosferatu wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:15 am All I am saying:
If this loop hole would be actively promoted and the numbers for "Real steam sale" Vs "Activated Keys" would Tipp over valve would step in and stop it.
Not activating on steam isn't helping Wube at all. Activating on steam helps steam and strengthens Wubes relationship with Valve. Valve wants users on their platform and their hosting costs are minimal. They get active users for free, without any onboarding costs. Valve can sell games to active steam users, they want you on it. They know you won't buy Factorio on steam after you bought it at Factorio.com anyways, so they rather sell you their 100k other games through their games advertisement channel that you install on your computer...Nosferatu wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:15 am So buying on the website and NOT activating on steam is best for Wube.
Qon wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:36 pm
Not activating on steam isn't helping Wube at all. Activating on steam helps steam and strengthens Wubes relationship with Valve. Valve wants users on their platform and their hosting costs are minimal. They get active users for free, without any onboarding costs. Valve can sell games to active steam users, they want you on it. They know you won't buy Factorio on steam after you bought it at Factorio.com anyways, so they rather sell you their 100k other games through their games advertisement channel that you install on your computer...
Read what I quoted and what I actually said again.NineNine wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:58 pm I cannot make any sense out of what you're saying here. How does Wube benefit from paying Valve 30% of their sales? Valve gets more users, and money. Wube gets....?
Nosferatu wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:35 am No. If you buy from the website you don't need steam.
After that you can get yourself a free steam key later - but only if you want.
Hamster wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:39 pm Any idea, when can we actually buy (or pre-order) the DLC? only on Monday or earlier?
One issue with this is if everyone is buying at the same time, it might cause issues or outages, delaying people from getting the game. Also people might have issues with their payment, such as the bank putting a hold due to fraud detection, or maybe some other random thing since hundreds of thousands of people will be buying it so there's gonna be at least a handful people with problems. I hope Wube opens up the system to purchases as early as possible so if anyone has payment issues they can be resolved before the launch.