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Dynamically change research queue default setting when making maps

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:00 am
by troastervista
TL;DR
New players can get confused and skip over tech with research queue, but every experienced player wants it on by default. Here is my solution.

What ?
Research queue is off by default.
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Make it off by default for new players, but on by default for experienced players.
HOW?
For example when you make a map 3 times, from the 4th time forward the queue will be on by default. Or when you have other mods than base and expansion. Or even make it an interface setting. Or based on how many times you beat the game.

Why ?
This is infuriating for people who constantly forget to turn it on :) . I'm sure every experienced player is just like me, wanting to enable research queue all the time. However new players need the queue to be off. I'm sure you would have set it to on by default if it wasn't for new players.
When I asked why, a Discord member replied with "factorio is more focused on new players who should not have to fiddle with settings, by not giving them the queue, it lowers the chance of players racing past tech and not paying attention to what they are unlocking" and this is highly agreeable.

Additional ?
(couldn't log in to tomsterBG so i'm this account now)

Yes, you can use this command
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It would be much more convenient if you didn't have to.
The game is so high quality and polished, even over-polished in many ways. Let's over-polish it even more!

Re: Dynamically change research queue default setting when making maps

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:05 am
by Koub
For completeness, not the same suggestion, but suggestions trying to address the same issue :
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=81142
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=66073

This "I forgot to set the option upon map creation again" has a long history :mrgreen:.

Re: Dynamically change research queue default setting when making maps

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:29 am
by Illiander42
Koub wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:05 am For completeness, not the same suggestion, but suggestions trying to address the same issue :
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=81142
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=66073

This "I forgot to set the option upon map creation again" has a long history :mrgreen:.
One of those threads had 4 other threads merged in. :mrgreen:

One other thing to throw into the pile is how this would effect "default settings" speedrunners. So this would probably want to get reset along with achievements.

But yes, it would be so nice to have a setting in my options to say "default to research queue on"

Re: Dynamically change research queue default setting when making maps

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:32 am
by Koub
This has been addressed in the last FFF (https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-376). When the expansion comes, it will be always on.