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[Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:49 am
by ficolas
-You can sumbit a map or an scenario, and the scenario doesnt need to have a map, it can be 100% code, also you shouldnt use mods in your map.
-The contest wont have a jury, everybody will vote for the map he/she likes the most.
-To sumbit the maps, you should post them in the comments, but dont post them before the contest starts, or other players will be able to copy stuff!
-The contest sumbitting time will start in two weeks from this sunday (so the 21st of july), and there will only be three days to sumbit the map.
-The voting time will last a week.
-You can sumbit more than one map.
-There is no price (or maybe yes, if somebody wants to give a price to the winner, like a title in the forums or something
)
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Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:45 am
by drs9999
I would vote for yes if you change "map" into "scenario"
Maybe, just maybe, if many people contribute lets say 5+ the devs are willing to add the winners-scenario to the vanilla game.
( or a free scenario pack for the winner?
)
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:32 am
by ficolas
drs9999 wrote:I would vote for yes if you change "map" into "scenario"
Maybe, just maybe, if many people contribute lets say 5+ the devs are willing to add the winners-scenario to the vanilla game.
( or a free scenario pack for the winner?
)
Why you want me to change it from map to scenario?
An scenario is 100% coding, you dont edit the terrain, I think that less people will do an scenario, since is harder to think, and water and forests are hatefull, if the player spawns near water/forest and you want to make structures, then it would be quite hard.
I think that the best choise is let the creator chooses between map or scenario.
Also another thing is, should we let people use custom mods designed for the scenario?
Because im sure some people will want to add a house or something
I think that letting people add custom entities can be good.
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:50 pm
by drs9999
Ok then let me clarify this.
For me a map, yeah it is just a map
It works similar to a normal game, but with handmade terrain (and prebuilt structures).
A scenario includes a predefined map + a scenario-script ( that just works in this specific scenario-enviroment, so no other games are affected)
And finally a mod which means coding + new entities/items and have an effect on all games (if turned on of course).
But yeah I changed my opinion, it might be the best idea to let the creator decide. I guess that will result in a higher feedback.
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:57 pm
by ficolas
drs9999 wrote:Ok then let me clarify this.
For me a map, yeah it is just a map
It works similar to a normal game, but with handmade terrain (and prebuilt structures).
A scenario includes a predefined map + a scenario-script ( that just works in this specific scenario-enviroment, so no other games are affected)
And finally a mod which means 100% coding and have an effect on all games (if turned on of course).
But yeah I changed my opinion, it might be the best idea to let the creator decide. I guess that will result in a higher feedback.
I think that with the scenarios the map is created by the factorio code, and you run a script, a map is terrain + scrip(optional), and a mod prototypes+script.
I think that for this content it should be map (with script), map+mod (with script) or just script (scenario, or scenario+mod.
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:45 pm
by slpwnd
For me the map is also just a static terrain + entities. While scenario is the map + script (behavior). However it is a matter of definition. In this sense the scenarios in scenario-pack are scenarios:) Anyway I think there is a lot of room for interesting creations for maps and scenarios (map + script).
drs9999 wrote:Maybe, just maybe, if many people contribute lets say 5+ the devs are willing to add the winners-scenario to the vanilla game.
( or a free scenario pack for the winner? )
The scenarios can be put into a mod and distributed in such a way. The scenario-pack is actually a mod. On the other hand if someone some good scenario (or map
) then we can for sure talk about being this part of the Factorio distribution itself.
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:52 pm
by ficolas
slpwnd wrote:For me the map is also just a static terrain + entities. While scenario is the map + script (behavior). However it is a matter of definition. In this sense the scenarios in scenario-pack are scenarios:) Anyway I think there is a lot of room for interesting creations for maps and scenarios (map + script)
Well the scenario im preparing is more like the freeplay or the sandbox, all the building is made by the code, and the map is generated randomly.
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:24 pm
by drs9999
So because you already started ( and me too
).
Do we want to define a deadline? IMO something between 2-4 weeks sounds good to me
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:33 pm
by ficolas
drs9999 wrote:So because you already started ( and me too
).
Do we want to define a deadline? IMO something between 2-4 weeks sounds good to me
I thought about a deadline of 2 weeks and extending it if in, two weeksot much people has sumbited it, I will change the post giving more details tomorrow.
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:01 pm
by cube
Will it be cheating if i join too?
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:08 pm
by ficolas
cube wrote:Will it be cheating if i join too?
you can join
too
But no c++ code!
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:09 pm
by ficolas
ficolas wrote:cube wrote:Will it be cheating if i join too?
you can join
too
But dont modify factorio, no c++ code!
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:16 pm
by drs9999
And in the end you will get -1 vote for each function or something similar you used that is not mentioned in the wiki
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:29 pm
by ficolas
drs9999 wrote:And in the end you will get -1 vote for each function or something similar you used that is not mentioned in the wiki
Well the wiki is prety outdated, I know more methods than the ones that are listed in the wiki
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:43 pm
by FreeER
cube wrote:Will it be cheating if i join too?
LOL, I think anything goes as long as it is done using a public version of factorio xD
If I had an idea for what to do I'd probably join myself, but I'm not really a creative person so I've no idea where to start lol (I have had a nagging idea in the back of my head though, ever since I first played the demo, to change all of the terrain images to make it look like a hell biome...the creepers would work as nice low level demons lol)
edit: wow, four posts were made while I wrote this, that or I simply didn't notice that there were two pages...probably the latter
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:51 pm
by ficolas
FreeER wrote:cube wrote:Will it be cheating if i join too?
LOL, I think anything goes as long as it is done using a public version of factorio xD
If I had an idea for what to do I'd probably join myself, but I'm not really a creative person so I've no idea where to start lol (I have had a nagging idea in the back of my head though, ever since I first played the demo, to change all of the terrain images to make it look like a hell biome...the creepers would work as nice low level demons lol)
edit: wow, four posts were made while I wrote this, that or I simply didn't notice that there were two pages...probably the latter
cmooooon! participate! you have two weeks to think!
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:15 pm
by drs9999
Aw I am so exited
I can not wait to upload my result.
So lets say the contest ends on sunday in 2 weeks, 10p.m. official factorio-time ( GMT+1)? After that 1 week voting?
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:22 pm
by ficolas
drs9999 wrote:Aw I am so exited
I can not wait to upload my result.
So lets say the contest ends on sunday in 2 weeks, 10p.m. official factorio-time ( GMT+1)? After that 1 week voting?
2 weeks to make the map, and a week to vote, so it ends the 28th (with results) and the time you have to sumbit the map ends the 24th
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:27 pm
by drs9999
And when are we allowed to upload our results? Or just before 24th?
Re: [Contest] Making a map.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:31 pm
by ficolas
drs9999 wrote:And when are we allowed to upload our results? Or just before 24th?
Im gonna make a calendar
Edit: done