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Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:07 pm
by coopmaster
Airat9000 wrote:
Airat9000 wrote: I can show you the normal instance, I do not understand the example of the initial code I gave

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global.gt_extra_blacklist
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global.gt_extra_Yuoki_0.2.33
wright?
So below is what I get when I try to run bob's ores with a clean install:
TroubleItems.txt
There are two ways I can make this work, I will show both below. The first is just copying the whole thing into the config directly above the last "end" and change the "mod_name_here" to the mod's name, then add values for the items (which is toward the end of the file):
config.lua - option 1
The other way is to get rid of a few lines:
config.lua - option 2
either one should work as long as every line has either a number or false at the end.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:18 am
by Airat9000
coopmaster wrote:
Airat9000 wrote:
Airat9000 wrote: I can show you the normal instance, I do not understand the example of the initial code I gave

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global.gt_extra_blacklist
to

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global.gt_extra_Yuoki_0.2.33
wright?
So below is what I get when I try to run bob's ores with a clean install:
TroubleItems.txt
There are two ways I can make this work, I will show both below. The first is just copying the whole thing into the config directly above the last "end" and change the "mod_name_here" to the mod's name, then add values for the items (which is toward the end of the file):
config.lua - option 1
The other way is to get rid of a few lines:
config.lua - option 2
either one should work as long as every line has either a number or false at the end.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:16 pm
by coopmaster
if they have a true at the end, that means that they wont show up in game. If you want them to show up, turn them to false. The only ones though that you should turn to false are the ones that say blacklist.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:31 pm
by Airat9000
coopmaster wrote:if they have a true at the end, that means that they wont show up in game. If you want them to show up, turn them to false. The only ones though that you should turn to false are the ones that say blacklist.
changed to false, nothing has changed

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:58 pm
by coopmaster
Airat9000 wrote:
coopmaster wrote:if they have a true at the end, that means that they wont show up in game. If you want them to show up, turn them to false. The only ones though that you should turn to false are the ones that say blacklist.
changed to false, nothing has changed
you need to add

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gt_Yuoki_support = true
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 if gt_Yuoki_support then
like I explained

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:42 pm
by Airat9000
coopmaster wrote:
Airat9000 wrote:
coopmaster wrote:if they have a true at the end, that means that they wont show up in game. If you want them to show up, turn them to false. The only ones though that you should turn to false are the ones that say blacklist.
changed to false, nothing has changed
you need to add

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gt_Yuoki_support = true
before the

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 if gt_Yuoki_support then
like I explained
Thank like everything turned out)) only question, then it will be available for sale all *?

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:30 pm
by TuckJohn
I really like this mod.
I have two suggestions- make use of the rockets for trading. Secondly, make the prices based on what other people are buying. For example, for every solar panel that "bob" buys, "Tim" gets more for selling them. Basically supply and demand. (A lot like how the game "blockheads" does its 'global market')

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:44 pm
by coopmaster
TuckJohn wrote:I really like this mod.
I have two suggestions- make use of the rockets for trading. Secondly, make the prices based on what other people are buying. For example, for every solar panel that "bob" buys, "Tim" gets more for selling them. Basically supply and demand. (A lot like how the game "blockheads" does its 'global market')
I really want to do something like this, but I haven't really thought of a good way of doing it while trying to make it fit with factorio. It is planned though and I will eventually do it. Also, what do you mean by make use of rockets for trading? I already have it to where you can buy and sell rocket launcher and ammo in-game.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:48 pm
by TuckJohn
coopmaster wrote: I really want to do something like this, but I haven't really thought of a good way of doing it while trying to make it fit with factorio. It is planned though and I will eventually do it. Also, what do you mean by make use of rockets for trading? I already have it to where you can buy and sell rocket launcher and ammo in-game.
1. There are two different ways that you could implement it from a gameplay perspective- prices fluctuate per world or per every player using your mod. For the first one, you could simply use a global variable for every item that is changed whenever a item is bought or sold. For the second idea(the more complex one) you would have to host a server with the global prices, that are accessed and changed by the factorio clients using your mod as items are bought.

2. As for your second point on what I mean by rockets, I mean to not simply have chests in which the items magically appear, but rather to use the rocket silos to to the trading. You could think of that as flying to the nearest space station and purchasing items, then landing back in the silo for unloading,re-fueling, and re-use. That may be quite hard to program though.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:49 pm
by coopmaster
TuckJohn wrote:
coopmaster wrote: I really want to do something like this, but I haven't really thought of a good way of doing it while trying to make it fit with factorio. It is planned though and I will eventually do it. Also, what do you mean by make use of rockets for trading? I already have it to where you can buy and sell rocket launcher and ammo in-game.
1. There are two different ways that you could implement it from a gameplay perspective- prices fluctuate per world or per every player using your mod. For the first one, you could simply use a global variable for every item that is changed whenever a item is bought or sold. For the second idea(the more complex one) you would have to host a server with the global prices, that are accessed and changed by the factorio clients using your mod as items are bought.

2. As for your second point on what I mean by rockets, I mean to not simply have chests in which the items magically appear, but rather to use the rocket silos to to the trading. You could think of that as flying to the nearest space station and purchasing items, then landing back in the silo for unloading,re-fueling, and re-use. That may be quite hard to program though.

Ya I was thinking of making a server or something that would make it for everyone, but then what happens when someone decides to cheat in a bunch of items and sell it on the market? Nobody can make a profit on selling their items and I would have to reset the server. What I'm going to do is I will try making a server where everyone can contribute to a global market, but I don't even know if it is possible to connect to a server with a mod. I will look into it, but it might be a while before I actually implement something like that (or it could be soon, I don't have a plan for what I'm doing next after the next update of my mod). The second thing about rockets, I could make an entity that is larger instead of the chests, but I don't think I could have a rocket that flies up and down. Maybe I could have the chests have a fuel resource (like energy crystals for teleportation, or a rocket if I want it to be expensive to trade) but that makes it really expensive to trade stuff and I don't know if I want that.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:50 am
by hoho
A potential problem with "global market" would be players using cheats to flood the market with stuff.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:54 pm
by ikodan
Hello,

When I opened a buy chest with the version GalacticTrade_0.5.0 :
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I tried to update to GalacticTrade_0.6.0 but now my save won't load :
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mod list :
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Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:13 pm
by Alexs
if I disable galactic trade (version 0.6.0), mod delete, then charge again and activate, it no longer works. He works again when I start a new game and "Recalculate Market Values" does not work

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:31 pm
by coopmaster
ikodan wrote:Hello,

When I opened a buy chest with the version GalacticTrade_0.5.0 :
Image
I tried to update to GalacticTrade_0.6.0 but now my save won't load :
Image
mod list :
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unfortunately saves before 0.6 wont work. If you don't plan on using multiplayer then you don't need to update, but otherwise I would suggest making a new save.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:32 pm
by coopmaster
Alexs wrote:if I disable galactic trade (version 0.6.0), mod delete, then charge again and activate, it no longer works. He works again when I start a new game and "Recalculate Market Values" does not work
Hmm... I thought it worked from my testing, but I guess it doesn't. I will look at the recalculate market values button, but I might have already fixed it for the next version. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:50 pm
by ikodan
coopmaster wrote:
ikodan wrote:Hello,

When I opened a buy chest with the version GalacticTrade_0.5.0 :
Image
I tried to update to GalacticTrade_0.6.0 but now my save won't load :
Image
mod list :
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unfortunately saves before 0.6 wont work. If you don't plan on using multiplayer then you don't need to update, but otherwise I would suggest making a new save.
It's already a new save ! I wanted to play with your 0.5, but I had the first screenshot...

Re: [0.12]Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:35 pm
by coopmaster
ikodan wrote: It's already a new save ! I wanted to play with your 0.5, but I had the first screenshot...
Get the 0.5.3 version, I made it to where that wont happen anymore. Before I had it to where you had to do things to other mods to make it compatible, but if you get version 0.5.2 and up you don't need to.
You can get the older versions here. (download the 0.5.3 zip) or just start a new save with the 0.6 version.

Re: [MOD 0.12.4+] Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:39 pm
by Alexs
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a new error with the version 0.12.5 factorio.
my galactic trade version is 0.5.3.

Re: [MOD 0.12.4+] Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:42 pm
by coopmaster
Alexs wrote:
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a new error with the version 0.12.5 factorio.
my galactic trade version is 0.5.3.
I haven't had the chance to mess around with 0.12.5, I'll do that tonight and try to have a version out by tomorrow.

Re: [MOD 0.12.4] Galactic Trade (Now With Multiplayer)

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:37 pm
by TuckJohn
I just thought of a way to have global dynamic economy; Have soft limits on the prices so that if a hacker cheats in items, the item value goes down to next to free.
For example, take this diagram. 1 dash equals, say, 200 sales of an item.

(pre-set lower limit) (pre-set upper limit)
10------8----7--6-----5---------------4-----------------------------3
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