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Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:05 pm
by mmmPI
Djmixxx wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:26 pm
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:12 pm The same shit they post on RT?
Same shit posted every governor propaganda. In EU , USA or Russia.
I don't think those two pictures are 1rst degree.

I think it is somewhat accurate depiction of how in the west the ukrainian army is considered heroic and supported like the avengers that are fierce freedom fighters. And that at the same time in Russia they describe their army like it's a just some peaceful old man that is friend with animals and nature and that no-one should worry about because they are not at war.

Not every conflict will be 2 different symetric narrative. In 1980 when Irak invaded Iran, the Iraki where minimizing their losses to try and look strong and decisive, while in Iran they where exagerating their losses so that people would emphasize with them being attacked. Millions of dead humans.


[Edit: changed the wording to make it easier to translate in other langage than english]

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 pm
by Djmixxx
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:50 pm A rare footage of 2 russians bots engaged in a conversation :D
actually 3, you are also involved

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 pm
by mmmPI
Yes i'm the only person who is not a bot obvisouly

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm
by enterisys
Djmixxx wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 pm
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:50 pm A rare footage of 2 russians bots engaged in a conversation :D
actually 3, you are also involved
Nah Ill pass, Im here only to point out your "news" as fakes.

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pm
by dog80
f*** this war

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:14 pm
by Djmixxx
mmmPI wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:07 pm Yes i'm the only person who is not a bot obvisouly
Don't be shy, that's what everyone says. I am also not a bot. Do you think anyone cares?

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:15 pm
by Djmixxx
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:09 pm Nah Ill pass, Im here only to point out your "news" as fakes.
Missed my news

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:16 pm
by Djmixxx
dog80 wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pmf*** this war
we will all pay for it for a long time, and whoever started it from both sides will live in wealth

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:23 pm
by enterisys
Djmixxx wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:16 pm
dog80 wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:11 pmf*** this war
we will all pay for it for a long time, and whoever started it from both sides will live in wealth
"We" as russia? Yeah most likely.

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:28 pm
by Djmixxx
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:23 pm "We" as russia? Yeah most likely.
:lol: This country has had 2 defaults lately (1998, 2008) do you think one more or one less they care?

I filled up the car yesterday for 1.85, and today the price is 1.95

So WE meaning WE all.

And if it's funny to you when you pay for other people's mistakes, then to me it is not funny.

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:29 pm
by mmmPI
i'm not sure i see any one winning anything there, with losing the most is Ukraine, then Russia, then the rest of the world that need food or gas. maybe if your job is to make weapons and you do not do the war yourself you make money ?

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:35 pm
by Djmixxx
mmmPI wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:29 pm i'm not sure i see any one winning anything there, with losing the most is Ukraine, then Russia, then the rest of the world that need food or gas. maybe if your job is to make weapons and you do not do the war yourself you make money ?
Russia is a banana country, it mainly supplies only resources.
If Europe replaces Russia, then Russia will sell to those countries from which Europe has taken resources.
But there will be less competition and more prices for Europe

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:38 pm
by enterisys
Djmixxx wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:28 pm
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:23 pm "We" as russia? Yeah most likely.
:lol: This country has had 2 defaults lately (1998, 2008) do you think one more or one less they care?

I filled up the car yesterday for 1.85, and today the price is 1.95

So WE meaning WE all.

And if it's funny to you when you pay for other people's mistakes, then to me it is not funny.
Did anyone ban ru oil/gas then? No. Your country is dead in 2 years just like Venezuela and N Korea.

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:39 pm
by ravage666
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Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:47 pm
by ravage666
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Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:51 pm
by Djmixxx
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:38 pm Did anyone ban ru oil/gas then? No. Your country is dead in 2 years just like Venezuela and N Korea.
What you mean?

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:55 pm
by mmmPI
ravage666 wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:47 pm China it the big winner.
do you think they could feel threaten by Russia nuclear weapons ? or Russia willing to restaure their influence over central Asia ?

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:09 pm
by Djmixxx
mmmPI wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:55 pm do you think they could feel threaten by Russia nuclear weapons ? or Russia willing to restaure their influence over central Asia ?
You do not follow the topic, already wrote here.

This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine. This is a US-China war. The United States pushed Ukraine into the clutches of Russia in order for Europe to unite around the United States. Judging by the comments here, it worked.

10 years ago, France produced unique warships for Russia.

Germany tried to withdraw software from the US

And now they are all back to the United States, and Russia is now an ally of China

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:14 pm
by mmmPI
Djmixxx wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:09 pm
mmmPI wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:55 pm do you think they could feel threaten by Russia nuclear weapons ? or Russia willing to restaure their influence over central Asia ?
You do not follow the topic, already wrote here.

This is not a war between Russia and Ukraine. This is a US-China war. The United States pushed Ukraine into the clutches of Russia in order for Europe to unite around the United States. Judging by the comments here, it worked.

10 years ago, France produced unique warships for Russia.

Germany tried to withdraw software from the US

And now they are all back to the United States, and Russia is now an ally of China
That is in contradiction with the video you linked 7 times yesteray from 2015 where according to "John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago" Instead Russia is to be considered an allied of the West due to it being part of the same civilization.

You said it explained everything and now you are saying something different which makes it hard to give credits to you.

You also mention the global young leaders of davos which mister Putin is part of like mister Trudeau as far as i'm aware. You need to explain why they would then be in opposite side of the US-China war thanks you.

Re: We support Ukraine

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:17 pm
by MOP3E
enterisys wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 2:23 pm "We" as russia? Yeah most likely.
Gas in Europe is already stable at 2500...