Re: Allow copypaste to storage chest
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:48 am
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Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
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Re: Allow copypaste to storage chest
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:08 pm
BlueTemplar wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:57 am Pictures don't show because you didn't link them — you linked the page instead.
The reason image storage websites (especially free ones) don't make it as easy as it could be is because by doing this everyone downloading (by looking) at that image is leeching their computing resources.
(It's still easy though, just link the image itself.)
But you should avoid using them anyway, as they cannot be relied on :
https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ImageShack
You should rather upload the media here, where it will be kept together with the rest of your post, and will avoid these kinds of issues with lost images :
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2#p2827272
(Also I think it makes it easier for back up crawler bots, like those of the Internet Archive ?)
Re: Allow copypaste to storage chest
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:15 pm
This is indeed something that a lot of players have wished for, and so made mods for :
https://mods.factorio.com/search?query= ... =relevancy
(I'm kind of surprised that you seem to be the first to make a suggestions thread about it ?!)
https://mods.factorio.com/search?query= ... =relevancy
(I'm kind of surprised that you seem to be the first to make a suggestions thread about it ?!)
Add in copy pasting to set filters for storage chests
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:50 am
TL;DR:
Copy paste assembler settings to storage chest to set storage chest filter
What?
This suggestion is to let us copy paste (shift+right click > shift+left click) from an assembler to a storage chest (yellow logistics chest) to set the storage chest's filter. Some players, like me, prefer to keep mall items in yellow chests with an item filter instead of red chests because if I need to trash the item, I know it goes back to the chest the assembler is placing it in, which the red chest doesn't do.
Why?
Since we've had copy paste assembler recipe to inserter for a while, being able to quickly set storage chest filter when setting up an assembler would be a nice QoL change that saves the player a few clicks.
Copy paste assembler settings to storage chest to set storage chest filter
What?
This suggestion is to let us copy paste (shift+right click > shift+left click) from an assembler to a storage chest (yellow logistics chest) to set the storage chest's filter. Some players, like me, prefer to keep mall items in yellow chests with an item filter instead of red chests because if I need to trash the item, I know it goes back to the chest the assembler is placing it in, which the red chest doesn't do.
Why?
Since we've had copy paste assembler recipe to inserter for a while, being able to quickly set storage chest filter when setting up an assembler would be a nice QoL change that saves the player a few clicks.
Re: Add in copy pasting to set filters for storage chests
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:56 am
I like this, there are only very few exceptions i can think of where the assembly machine has more than 1 output , and i think it would be fine in those cases if the first item is the one that gets used as filter.
(edit: i was wrong, for biochamber or assembly processing gleba's fruit, they have 2 ouput, the first one being the seed, for a ctrl shift to paste filer on a storage chest, i would expect the seed to not be the only filter for the storage chest
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(edit: i was wrong, for biochamber or assembly processing gleba's fruit, they have 2 ouput, the first one being the seed, for a ctrl shift to paste filer on a storage chest, i would expect the seed to not be the only filter for the storage chest
)Re: Add in copy pasting to set filters for storage chests
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:26 pm
Yah I was going to say, yellow box has only 1 filter slot
Re: Add in copy pasting to set filters for storage chests
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:50 pm
Hard +1 on that
Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:01 am
So it sets the filter based on the machine.
Right now you have to set the chest filter by choosing an item from a huge menu with lots of tabs, it's so inconvenient that a lot of people just place a passive provider chest instead.
It would be a nice QoL change if you could just copy the recipe from the machine and it would set the filter. For example it would really simplify the mall creation process:
1. place a machine
2. place a storage chest
3. select a recipe
4. shift-right click the machine to copy the recipe
5. shift-left click the chest. Now the chest has the same filter as the output of copied machine.
6. repeat for all mall machines.
You can see how much time it saves rather than searching for an item in a menu as you have to do now.
Right now you have to set the chest filter by choosing an item from a huge menu with lots of tabs, it's so inconvenient that a lot of people just place a passive provider chest instead.
It would be a nice QoL change if you could just copy the recipe from the machine and it would set the filter. For example it would really simplify the mall creation process:
1. place a machine
2. place a storage chest
3. select a recipe
4. shift-right click the machine to copy the recipe
5. shift-left click the chest. Now the chest has the same filter as the output of copied machine.
6. repeat for all mall machines.
You can see how much time it saves rather than searching for an item in a menu as you have to do now.
Re: Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:12 am
You can try click the assembling machine, hover over the output slot, press q (the 'pipette' key), click onto the storage chest, then click the filter.
Still a hassle though.
I can't seem to get this to work if the output is a placable building (you cant open the chest, as it will be trying to place a (ghost) building there)
Still a hassle though.
I can't seem to get this to work if the output is a placable building (you cant open the chest, as it will be trying to place a (ghost) building there)
Re: Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:38 am
[Koub] Merged several threads with the same suggestion.
Re: Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:18 am
The reason you want a passive provider chest is so that any of the item stored somewhere else is used up first.Pzixel wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:01 am Right now you have to set the chest filter by choosing an item from a huge menu with lots of tabs, it's so inconvenient that a lot of people just place a passive provider chest instead.
The reason why you want a storage chest with filter is so that deconstruction returns the item so it can be used as input to the next stage, e.g. yellow belts become red belts.
What you really want is a buffer chest so you get both.
It's too bad that that then screws up the roboport statistics because there is no option to read requests without buffer chests.Re: Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:29 am
I've been using a requester chest or buffer for this purpose...., how is a storage chest beter?mrvn wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:18 am The reason why you want a storage chest with filter is so that deconstruction returns the item so it can be used as input to the next stage, e.g. yellow belts become red belts.
(we should really just delete all of the logistic chests except buffer, and just add some checkbox options as to whether taking items from it is allowed, or storing random trash in it is allowed)
Re: Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:46 am
Requester chest will generate "unfulfilled requests" signal in roboports, possibly triggering a craft or delivery, if such signal is read and processed.IsaacOscar wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:29 amI've been using a requester chest or buffer for this purpose...., how is a storage chest beter?mrvn wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:18 am The reason why you want a storage chest with filter is so that deconstruction returns the item so it can be used as input to the next stage, e.g. yellow belts become red belts.
(we should really just delete all of the logistic chests except buffer, and just add some checkbox options as to whether taking items from it is allowed, or storing random trash in it is allowed)
Re: Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:10 pm
+1. I made a similar suggestion before.IsaacOscar wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:29 amI've been using a requester chest or buffer for this purpose...., how is a storage chest beter?mrvn wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:18 am The reason why you want a storage chest with filter is so that deconstruction returns the item so it can be used as input to the next stage, e.g. yellow belts become red belts.
(we should really just delete all of the logistic chests except buffer, and just add some checkbox options as to whether taking items from it is allowed, or storing random trash in it is allowed)
But instead of checkmarks the request should have 3 sliders:
1) if below the first then items are requested
2) if above the second the items are requested
3) if above the third then items are trashed (active provider)
A checkmark for "accepts items for storage" would be nice I guess. And allow "anything"/"everything" as item filter.
Re: Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:41 pm
@mrvn, and how to define where to trash items to?
Re: Copy recipe output to filter of storage chest (QoL: Copy recipe From Assembling Machine to additional entities)
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:15 pm
The "accept items for storage" checkmark would allow bots do deposite items up to the upper limit, turns it into a storage chest. And the "everything" / "anything" symbols would allow storage of any item. Differecne being that "everything" has the limit for the total items and "anything" a limit per item.
Re: Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:05 am
But this is what I said, no? For example I'm creating a belt processing factory, I'd like to use storage chests with filter so that when deconstructing the older belts splitters etc they end up in this factory to be processed into higher tier items. But ATM I just use passive providers *while it's not exactly correct* just because setting each storage chest takes a lot of time. When your mall has a hundred of them you end up thinking like "okay maybe I won't have all items being placed at their proper places, but at least I won't be spending 30 minutes clicking on the boxes".mrvn wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:18 amThe reason you want a passive provider chest is so that any of the item stored somewhere else is used up first.Pzixel wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:01 am Right now you have to set the chest filter by choosing an item from a huge menu with lots of tabs, it's so inconvenient that a lot of people just place a passive provider chest instead.
The reason why you want a storage chest with filter is so that deconstruction returns the item so it can be used as input to the next stage, e.g. yellow belts become red belts.
What you really want is a buffer chest so you get both.
Re: Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:17 am
When I upgrade stuff, I just used a requester chest that requests a ridiculous amount of the outdated versions. (a buffer chest would also work)Pzixel wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:05 am But this is what I said, no? For example I'm creating a belt processing factory, I'd like to use storage chests with filter so that when deconstructing the older belts splitters etc they end up in this factory to be processed into higher tier items. But ATM I just use passive providers *while it's not exactly correct* just because setting each storage chest takes a lot of time. When your mall has a hundred of them you end up thinking like "okay maybe I won't have all items being placed at their proper places, but at least I won't be spending 30 minutes clicking on the boxes".
Re: Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:29 pm
I'm not disagreeing with you. Just elaborating why people use each chest type.Pzixel wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:05 amBut this is what I said, no? For example I'm creating a belt processing factory, I'd like to use storage chests with filter so that when deconstructing the older belts splitters etc they end up in this factory to be processed into higher tier items. But ATM I just use passive providers *while it's not exactly correct* just because setting each storage chest takes a lot of time. When your mall has a hundred of them you end up thinking like "okay maybe I won't have all items being placed at their proper places, but at least I won't be spending 30 minutes clicking on the boxes".mrvn wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:18 amThe reason you want a passive provider chest is so that any of the item stored somewhere else is used up first.Pzixel wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:01 am Right now you have to set the chest filter by choosing an item from a huge menu with lots of tabs, it's so inconvenient that a lot of people just place a passive provider chest instead.
The reason why you want a storage chest with filter is so that deconstruction returns the item so it can be used as input to the next stage, e.g. yellow belts become red belts.
What you really want is a buffer chest so you get both.
Have you tried using the template parameters with a blueprint? At a minimum you need to set the recipe in the assembler. I like to also program the inserter removing the product to be limited by the amount in the logistic system. So that's two things I have to set to the product. The storage chest makes 3. But I think they could all be set to a template parameter in a blueprint and then you only set one thing and the assembler, inserter and storage chest all get the item type set.
Re: Allow copying machine recipe to the storage chest
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:33 pm
That only works when you upgrade every entity / stop using the older version. I do that with furnaces. Once I have steel furnaces I never use stone furnaces again and they all go into boiler production.IsaacOscar wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:17 amWhen I upgrade stuff, I just used a requester chest that requests a ridiculous amount of the outdated versions. (a buffer chest would also work)Pzixel wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:05 am But this is what I said, no? For example I'm creating a belt processing factory, I'd like to use storage chests with filter so that when deconstructing the older belts splitters etc they end up in this factory to be processed into higher tier items. But ATM I just use passive providers *while it's not exactly correct* just because setting each storage chest takes a lot of time. When your mall has a hundred of them you end up thinking like "okay maybe I won't have all items being placed at their proper places, but at least I won't be spending 30 minutes clicking on the boxes".
Not so with yellow belts. I use tons of yellow belts throughout the game. But when upgrading something to red belts I prefer the yellow belts to be used up to make more red belts instead of having them sit in storage somewhere till I place more yellow belts. It also helps reduce the usage spike on iron plates to use the yellow belts to make more red instead of making them from scratch.