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Svip wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:39 am As someone who maintains a large Go codebase, the lack of sum types isn't as big of a deal, once you've learnt to "program around them". Sum types are - at least in imperative languages - a relatively new feature. Honestly, I didn't find the lack of generics frustrating either, but now they are there. If Go adds sum types, it would also be a welcome addition. But it is getting harder to keep the Go 1 compatibility promise in such cases. Though their loop iteration backwards compatibility solution could bode well for potentially breaking changes in the future, so who knows. But I love that Go - as a language - is relatively small; it's possible to keep the entire grammar in your head.

raiguard wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:46 am Call me spoiled, but sum types are the best, especially when it comes to static analysis. I really miss Rust's tagged union enums with exhaustivity checking when working on my Go projects. Working around the lack of sum types is possible, yes, but it is not as safe nor as ergonomic as simply having them.

It's worth noting that I mostly end up wanting them when interfacing with code that relies on them, such as LSP. I'm writing a Lua language server in Go and the protocol is full of this-or-this-or-that, which is tedious to work with without tagged unions.

I completely agree in regards to Go's simplicity - it's one of the primary reasons I love the language so much.

continue2021 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:10 pm

Batmates wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:46 pm Please add mod grouping to the mod explorer. For example, when I want to play Space Exploration, I have to browse through the huge list of mods which I have installed and one by one select the ones I use for my SE map. It would be nice and easy to have a SE group, to which I would put all the SE mods, K2 group and then group containing the two named K2SE so I can turn the mod lists all at once.

In the same way, I would also like to see the custom grouping feature added to the mod management interface

darios77 wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:29 am

continue2021 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:10 pm

Batmates wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:46 pm Please add mod grouping to the mod explorer. For example, when I want to play Space Exploration, I have to browse through the huge list of mods which I have installed and one by one select the ones I use for my SE map. It would be nice and easy to have a SE group, to which I would put all the SE mods, K2 group and then group containing the two named K2SE so I can turn the mod lists all at once.

In the same way, I would also like to see the custom grouping feature added to the mod management interface

I think (hope? dream?) would be great if mods were SAVE based, not GAME based. So when I start new save - I select mods. And every time I load save, it loads mods connected to this save (of course with option to add/remove mods before loading).
Now is a chore - when I play with friend is one set of mods, when I play alone - different set. And I need to manually modify every time I want to switch. Sometimes I just don't want to click. And play something else

MBkufel wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:44 am I hope that a functionality for easy mass uninstalling will be implemented as well

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Hares wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:38 pm

Dial-up wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:28 pm

The solution was simple: In 2.0, I added a new Manage mods button that allows full access to the mod manager GUI, including all mod portal functionality. You can see it in the screenshot above.

can I ask the same thing but for mod settings?

This one is a bit trickier because mod settings rely on mods being fully loaded past the settings stage (because not only mods can define their settings, they can modify other mods' settings), and fast-reloading is not an option there.

stengineer wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:35 pm So any hope for mods on the switch version ??

stengineer wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:35 pm So any hope for mods on the switch version ??

stengineer wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:35 pm So any hope for mods on the switch version ??

Pockets wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:20 pm It would be nice if, when you open Factorio, instead of start loading the game, there is a small window with a list of "mod configurations", so you can add entries to this list and each would be a different mod combination. Then you select one and the game starts with it.

Henry Loenwind wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:10 pm 2.) A way to mark an active mod as "!important". The effect would be that the game would not let you deactivate that mod's dependencies, warn you if you deactivate an optional dependency, and won't let you activate mods that conflict with the "important" mod or its dependencies.

1. In dependency list, don't just show child dependencies and optional child dependencies (mods this mod depend on). Also have sections for parent dependencies and parent optional dependencies (mods that depend on this mod). Maybe also show the full list of what grand child dependencies and grand parent dependencies.
2. When disabling a mod with parent dependencies, also disable the parent automatically. (1) will already show you if something depends on this mod so it is obvious other mods will be disabled when you disable it. No warning needed.

Henry Loenwind wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:10 pm PS: And while we're talking about mods; why do we have Informatron and Tips&Tricks? On the surface, they look like they are doing the exact same thing. My guess as a programmer is that Tips&Tricks has some shortcomings, so:

4.) (among my wishes are) Fix the Tips&Tricks shortcomings that made modders make a copy of that system.

Qon wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:10 pm

Henry Loenwind wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:10 pm 2.) A way to mark an active mod as "!important". The effect would be that the game would not let you deactivate that mod's dependencies, warn you if you deactivate an optional dependency, and won't let you activate mods that conflict with the "important" mod or its dependencies.

Bad!
If I want to deactivate a mod then being prevented from doing so would be infuriating. I should be able to deactivate mods without manually hunting around for mods that depend on it so that I remove them in dependency order.
If two mods depend on each other with !important then wouldn't I just be permanently stuck with those mods with no way to disable them from within the game?

Svip wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:26 am

Qon wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:10 pm

Henry Loenwind wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:10 pm 2.) A way to mark an active mod as "!important". The effect would be that the game would not let you deactivate that mod's dependencies, warn you if you deactivate an optional dependency, and won't let you activate mods that conflict with the "important" mod or its dependencies.

Bad!
If I want to deactivate a mod then being prevented from doing so would be infuriating. I should be able to deactivate mods without manually hunting around for mods that depend on it so that I remove them in dependency order.
If two mods depend on each other with !important then wouldn't I just be permanently stuck with those mods with no way to disable them from within the game?

I think what Henry Loenwind meant to emphasis was that it was a personal list of important mods, i.e. the client defines their own list of important mods, that they can alter whenever they see fit. It's not mods that get to mark themselves as important nor their dependencies as important.

Henry Loenwind wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:10 pm 1.) On the "explore" tab, a category "mods that have a dependency on any of your active mods and mods your active mods have an optional dependency on". This would automagically list mods that are related to what one currently has, as well as mods that harmonise with them.

And so did you! With only one mod downloaded in 2023 so far, there's probably more to discover for you here.