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Arumba wrote:

Oxyd wrote:

Arumba wrote:In the 0.12.5 version while playing multiplayer I am getting auto-saves every minute, regardless of the setting I use on launch. Also, instead of saving three, it is keeping all of them, I now have up to _autosave20 in my save file list.

Additionally, if I disable autosave entirely, it still continues to autosave, but will crash to desktop the moment anyone tries to join the game.

Running the 64 zip version, windows 7.

*edit* Now I have 60 autosaves. I changed it to 60 minutes to try and get rid of the problem. It also makes sense then that disabling causes a crash, since its likely dividing by 0.

In an MP game, autosave settings are dictated by the player who started the game; your local settings are irrelevant in this case. Did you start the game or did you join an existing game? If you joined a game, what autosave settings does the player hosting use?

Edit: Actually, forget that. I can see exactly what the problem is. Value swapped around, indeed.

I hosted a brand new map with 20 minute autosaves initially. It saved every minute, we had 20 autosaves total. I changed the settings after rehosting to try and fix the problem, set it to 60 minute autosaves. We now have 60 autosaves, and it is still saving every minute. If I disable autosaves entirely the game crashes when anyone joins.

Yeah, I see now.

In case you're curious, if you check the “Allow Commands” checkbox, your autosave interval will be set to 1 minute; if it's unchecked, autosaves are disabled. The “Autosave Interval” slider determines the number of autosave slots; setting it to 0 will cause division by zero. Commands are always enabled and can't be disabled.

This doesn't affect games hosted on the server, only games started through Multiplayer → New Game in the GUI.

skintkingle wrote:Check the commit notes! Slap that bum!

The unnamed culprit is significantly taller than me, I don't think I'll be doing any slapping. He might slap himself, though.

So how much of that is working as intended? Is the 'allow commands' button supposed to allow/disallow commands? I'm not really understanding. It seems simpler to me to just go back to 12.4 where the world made sense >.<

Arumba wrote:So how much of that is working as intended? Is the 'allow commands' button supposed to allow/disallow commands? I'm not really understanding. It seems simpler to me to just go back to 12.4 where the world made sense >.<

I'm pretty sure that description above is meant to help people until they fix the issue and all will work as it should

Arumba wrote:So how much of that is working as intended? Is the 'allow commands' button supposed to allow/disallow commands? I'm not really understanding. It seems simpler to me to just go back to 12.4 where the world made sense >.<

Well, the latency slider works correctly. The “Use peer-to-peer” checkbox is also fine. The rest of that Multiplayer Lobby dialog is just wired up incorrectly.

Staying with 0.12.4 sounds like the reasonable choice at this point. In addition to this issue, there's also this bug in .5 that basically means you can't use smart inserters in MP.

Given i have over a hundred saves for each of my two main worlds,

FactorioBot wrote:

• • Changed open/save dialog and the rail station list to use case insensitive natural ordering.

that helps alot.

The game is so silent now. Nearly no music at all anymore.

I am sad.

Hm... The music is really interesting. I heard it now several times.

First: It is so silent, it is a mixture between ambient background (especially the different winds, the cymbal scrapes http://www.soundsnap.com/search/audio/c ... rape/score, the harmonic drones in background, which is also part of the basic theme). This is not very common for game-sound. I really like this step.

The music parts are flowing and not very distracting.

I like most "Gathering Horizon". This is really wonderful and it introduces also a theme, which doesn't get boring and it repeats through the whole music. And "First Light". But I begun now to hear the world-ambience sounds a lot and play it here in my room, they are really relaxing and useful for yoga. Very interesting is for me world-ambience2 from 0:30 ...

Sometimes I think they flow to strong. When you're working in your factory you don't hear it. Or it doesn't match with what you're currently doing. That is when a non-distracting music becomes distracting, because it is not distracting.

My 2 cents:
- Sometimes more distraction. I explained it above.
- Sometimes much louder. More distorted. I miss a really good tube distortion (*)
- Sometimes more heavy and brutal. I think some pinches of dark metal would hit a nerve and go into the right direction. (**)
- I think real instruments would bring it. A life played e-guitar. A real piano. Violin. Trombones. More real feeling. For me it is currently too synthetic, too nice, too tight.
- more of the main theme. I hope for a really good and long menu-song with a clear and nice main-theme introduction; some kind of "overture" (bringing in all themes) in the menu could be cool.


Edits:
- More different noises: The cymbal scrapes are matching, but the number of repetition is going on my nerves with the time. There are thousands of other industrial noises in the same category. Brakes of cargo trains for example. Also the wind can change a bit more.

(*) and/or very good tape-simulation.
(**) Also a good pinch of deepbass (For example http://8tracks.com/ketto/mindblow ) and maybe a very, very small pinch of harder dubstep for special situations.

TL;DR: Really nice music, but too dabbling, too silent sometimes, sometimes much harder, should match with the hard work you're doing in the factory, more diverse noises, a bit more realistic (a bit too much synthetic), stronger/high quality distortion, missing of clear main theme in the menu.

FactorioBot wrote:

• • Changed open/save dialog and the rail station list to use case insensitive natural ordering.

Can we do this for the mod list too? Its sort is currently case-sensitive and is a bit of a pain.

ssilk wrote:TL;DR: Really nice music, but too dabbling, too silent sometimes, sometimes much harder, should match with the hard work you're doing in the factory, more diverse noises, a bit more realistic (a bit too much synthetic), stronger/high quality distortion, missing of clear main theme in the menu.[/b]

Where you do even hear all that stuff? I hear the game plays something slow and barely noticable occasionally, followed by loooong stretches of absolutely no music at all.

I hear the music directly from the factorio/data/base/sound/ambience-folder.

after-the-crash.ogg
anomaly.ogg
are-we-alone.ogg
automation.ogg
beyond-factory-outskirts.ogg
first-light.ogg
gathering-horizon.ogg
pollution.ogg
research-and-minerals.ogg
resource-deficiency.ogg
solar-intervention.ogg
swell-pad.ogg
the-oil-industry.ogg
the-right-tools.ogg
transmit.ogg
world-ambience-1.ogg
world-ambience-2.ogg
world-ambience-3.ogg
world-ambience-4.ogg
world-ambience-5.ogg

I think when we play, we hear only 10-30% of the music.

Could someone comment on my post here? https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 53&t=15420

I can't figure out for the life of me (and neither can a couple other people I'm speaking to) how to enable the non peer to peer networking method for the server.

FactorioBot wrote:Added some new ambient sounds (wind, slow tunes).

I notice that the last few update notes haven't added more tracks, or at most only a very few. I hope more will get added. It's nice to play in a more varied "soundscape".

Peter34 wrote:

FactorioBot wrote:Added some new ambient sounds (wind, slow tunes).

I notice that the last few update notes haven't added more tracks, or at most only a very few. I hope more will get added. It's nice to play in a more varied "soundscape".

Yup, the work on the ambient tracks is still in progress ...